RTF/ODF Scan for Zotero

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  • but I cannot see it in the list - even after closing and re-opening Zotero (see here).
    Are you looking in the right place? Scannable Cite wouldn't show in the part of the list you have in that image. It'd be all the way towards the bottom among the export translators, between RIS and Wikipedia
  • edited July 18, 2017
    I guess the screenshot didn't capture it fully, but yes, it is not among the export translators. It goes from RIS to Simple Evernote Export to TEI to Wikipedia. No Scannable Cite...
    Final Update: I rebooted my machine and now things do look again the way they did. Not sure what happened there, but I'm back in business.
  • I'm having trouble with Zotero 5.0.4, specifically installing the RTF/ODF Scan for Zotero. I have found and installed one for Firefox, but the one for Zotero itself won't install. It remains with a large button with a blue border on the left-hand side labelled "Downloaded", but nothing happens. I have restarted both Zotero and my MacBook, to no avail. Is anyone able to help me with this?
  • @claudcameron you need to install the beta version here to work with Zotero 5 as of now: https://github.com/Juris-M/zotero-odf-scan-plugin/releases/tag/v1.0.34beta

    @sdspieg -- have you tested a full workflow with ODF scan on version 5? I'd like to release this to everyone, but want to make sure it's been tested by a couple of folks.
  • Hi there!

    I am trying to dowload the add-on, but the download just won't start.. Would you be able to help me?
  • The beta version linked above? The file is there; try with a different browser or on a different network if this doesn't work for you.
  • edited July 27, 2017
    @adamsmith - re: your comment above, I tested the v1.0.34 beta version on MacOS. I'm using Zotero in the Dutch localisation. Here's what I see:

    - The scannable cite format does not show up in the Cite tab of Zotero preferences. Like SDSpieg I rebooted my system. But the "scannabel cite" format did not show up.

    - Converting an earlier ODT document with the scannable cite markers in it, did result in a correctly formatted document.


    If there is anything else I can do, please let me know.

    --edited to add: I had "scannable cite" selected when I uninstalled the format from Firefox and installed the new Zotero version. I decided to try "Cmd-Shift-C" to copy a reference in any style, to see if that worked. But, as it turned out, I had not yet selected a style from the list.

    I was very surprised to see that the contents of my clipboard were in the scannable cite format! Like so: { | World Economic Forum, & Boston Consulting Group, 2013 | | |zu:187232:IKZFBTHB} (look that up if you want. I believe that this is correct.)

    I'm a bit confused but I won't be selecting any styles in the preferences window anytime soon.

    Best regards, Michiel
  • I am having difficulties installing the RTF/ODF Scan for Zotero (version 4.0.29.10 on a Surface tablet running Windows 10). I have successfully installed Zotero and the the RTF/ODF Scan for Zotero on a PC laptop running Windows 10, but it's not working this time. I have tried both the normal plug-in and the beta version. I think I"m having the same problem as Valeriya_Kitsina above: I click to install, it asks me if I'm sure it's safe, I say yes...and then nothing happens. I've tried re-starting Zotero and the machine; nothing happens. Bizarrely, when I go looking for the Translators folder, I can't find it (and I am viewing hidden items, so that's not the problem). Any ideas? I'd really like to be able to use Scannable Citations when being mobile (which my laptop isn't anymore because of a dead battery).
  • Bizarrely, Scannable Citation just suddenly showed up in my list of options by magic.
  • Hello @adamsmith

    I have a problem with the RTF/ODF Scan for Zotero: quite simply, the "scannable cite" option for the quick copy does not appear in the drop-down list. This functionality is an important part of my Scrivener/Zotero/Libreoffice workflow, and thus I am seeking your help.

    I use:
    version 2.0.34 of the add-on.
    standalone Zotero 5.0.18.
    macOS Sierra 10.12.5

    I have restarted the machine several times already. Nothing has changed.
    Is there any solution? Shall I remove v2.0.34, and install v1.0.34beta instead?
  • edited September 17, 2017
    @sdspieg I downloaded https://github.com/Juris-M/zotero-odf-scan-plugin/raw/master/resource/translators/Scannable Cite.js and installed it by placing it in the translators forlder in the Zotero data directory.

    It works out!
    Quick copy works, as markers are properly produced.
    RTF scan works also, converting markers into citations.
    Thanks!
  • Curious if @adamsmith or @krhanshew got to the bottom of what the issue was (December 20, 2016) with the 'reverse conversion' problem...i.e. from active zotero references back into Scannable Cite the style? I am in the same situation of trying to bring a modified draft (in .docx) w/ revisions and comments from my supervisors back into Scrivener to work on. It seems that the Scannable Cite exists in my Zotero>translators folder (.js), but not in my Zotero>styles folder as a .csl.

    Did you figure out a solution to this back in December?
  • I don't think I ever received the document, but note that this will not work in docx, you'd have to convert the citation format to bookmarks, save as .odt, open in LibreOffice convert to reference marks, and then reverse conversion should work.

    (Scannable cite isn't used for that conversion at all, and it's correct that it would only show up in the translators folder)
  • Ah, I see. That last piece - converting back into Scannable Cite - is the key issue I'm having. I can convert to RTF scan style, but that style doesn't display the page numbers information I've input to each individual citation. Which means that data gets lost when I try to import my .odt document with supervisors comments/revisions, and converted into RTF scan style citations into Scrivener.

    My hope was that I could convert my citations into Scannable Cite to preserve the page number information I had input into each individual citation in the paper.
  • You can, as described above (it just doesn't use the Scannable Cite code; but is built into the reverse scan), but it's rather involved when coming from .docx
  • Yeah, the Scannable Cite code is the one I want because it would allow the quickest route to moving a draft again from Scrivener to a file format that I can share with others (.odt, .doc., .docx, etc), that has active Zotero references.

    When I convert a revised file (.odt, for example, with active Zotero references) back to RTF scan citation format, the page numbers get dropped from the actual text that is displayed, which means they don't make it when I pull that document into Scrivener for revisions. When I use another style format - like any of the author-date styles that preserve the page numbers - the brackets are not compatible with the RTF Scan feature.

    It looks like 'reverse conversion' works, but not into a citation style that I can move in and out of Scrivener with that preserves all the information in the citation. I could be missing something, though. Is there another citation style I should be using for this? I'm guessing this is related to the previous discussion in this thread about a pandoc-like citation marker for 5.1...?

    BTW, thanks for all the development work you do!
  • edited September 25, 2017
    I think you're just misunderstanding how this works. ScannableCite has never been a citation style. Conversion and reverse conversion _only_ work through scanning .odt files (you change the direction by selecting "to citations" and "to markers"). But that method _does_ work to include page numbers, prefixes, etc.

    RTF scan is completely separate from our tool (though I think it should be possible to modify the citation style to include page numbers); it's just in the same menu for simplicity.
  • Long story short, I figured it out. Thanks @adamsmith !

    Longer version...Turns out my RTF/ODF scan add-on tool in standalone Zotero was corrupted. When I had thought I was updating it, it turns out I wasn't. And in assuming that I had updated the tool, I had gone on a goose-chase trying to convert my citations to Scannable Cite using the 'Set Document Preferences' option inside my word processors because the 'RTF scan' option was not showing me the 'RTF/ODF scan' tool Doh! After your comment, I realized that my assumption about what tool was working (or not) might be my issue. Redownloaded your tool, installed it manually from within the standalone Zotero add-on manager, and restarted everything. Now it works. Brilliantly. Using the RTF/ODF scan tool, I can (reverse) convert document 'citations' to 'markers' (scannable cite) in order to pull revised chapters back into Scrivener for editing. And all the citation information is preserved...page numbers, suffixes, etc. Brilliant.

    I feel like a bonehead. My fault. Thanks for pointing the way through this, @adamsmith.
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