<text variable="URL"/><group prefix=" (" suffix=")"> <text term="accessed" suffix=" "/> <date variable="accessed" suffix=", "> <date-part name="month" suffix=" "/> <date-part name="day" suffix=", "/> <date-part name="year"/> </date></group>
 inserting two spaces before "Edited by" and "Translated by" in the bibliographic entry)
Are you planning on publishing an updated Turabian style with the date macro added soon?
If it needs doing, it can probably be done, and likely well before Zotero 2.0 comes out, but do spell out any requirements you have on the forums.
The intro confirms: "These styles are essentially the same as those presented in The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th edition, with slight modifications for the needs of student writers." I can't find any difference between this guide and Chicago, except that Turabian seems to require an access date for all web sources while Chicago makes it optional.
To add access date to any Chicago style, after the url add the access date macro:
<group prefix=" (" suffix=")">
<text term="accessed" suffix=" "/>
<date variable="accessed" suffix=", ">
<date-part name="month" suffix=" "/>
<date-part name="day" suffix=", "/>
I'd be happy to compare the two styles as well, but if you're already doing so there's no point in my duplicating the effort.
Besides, when I used EndNote the Turabian style didn't work properly anyway. It probably still doesn't.
Currently I have to update eight Chicago styles every time I make a change, and I just don't have the time and patience to extend these revisions to similar styles such as SBL or Chicago Author-Date DE. (By the way, if anyone wants to go over these branch styles and apply recent changes please do so.) If Turabian differences are slight, it may be worth it to just list Turabian in Zotero repository as a dependent style (i.e. identical to Chicago)--then it will always include the latest changes. Of course, if Turabian is significantly different, then this won't work--but I'm still waiting to be convinced that it is.
FWIW, to follow up on my previous post above, I think all of the things that I originally thought were differences between Chicago and Turabian turned out to be issues that Zotero presently can't handle properly, like:
or my own ignorance of which item types to use (e.g., conference papers).
- reprint editions
- book reviews
- multi-volume works with different titles for the individual volumes
- forewords, prefaces, introductions, and afterwords by a different author (also here)
Other issues I notice that also need addressing globally, not just for Turabian, include known things like:
So, I'm afraid I'm not able to offer much help if Turabian does differ from Chicago beyond the need for the date an online resource was accessed. But perhaps there aren't any other differences. I'll post back here if I find out otherwise.
- the use of hyphens instead of em dashes for repeated authors
- Jr., III, etc.
- titles ending with question marks
Here's what I'm getting with the new Turabian style for a book:
N: Francis Turretin, Institutes of Elenctic Theology, ed. James T. Dennison, trans. George Musgrave Giger (Phillipsburg, NJ: P&R, 1992), 1:44–89.
B: Turretin, Francis. Institutes of Elenctic Theology. Edited by James T. Dennison. Translated by George Musgrave Giger. 3 vols. Phillipsburg, NJ: P&R, 1992.
Here's what I'm getting for a book section:
N: Francis Turretin, “The One and Triune God,” in Institutes of Elenctic Theology, ed. James T. Dennison, trans. George Musgrave Giger (Phillipsburg, NJ: P&R, 1992), 1:169–310.
B: Turretin, Francis. “The One and Triune God.” In Institutes of Elenctic Theology, edited by James T. Dennison, translated by George Musgrave Giger, 1:169–310. Phillipsburg, NJ: P&R, 1992.
This seems to accord properly with Turabian's 7th ed. There are three problems (i.e.,  not being able to include Jr. for Dennison,  not being able to handle the title for the individual volume, and  inserting two spaces before "Edited by" and "Translated by" in the bibliographic entry), but as far as I can tell, none of them is a problem with Chicago vs. Turabian.
Pierard, Richard V. “Warfield, Benjamin Breckinridge (1851–1921).” In New Twentieth-Century Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, edited by J. D. Douglas. Grand Rapids: Baker, 1991.
Or is it proper to drop the edition number when citing a section of a book?
I always include it, but I can't find confirmation one way or another. Does anyone know?
Great work on the Turabian style -- been using it daily. I've read a few of your posts on how to insert the date macro but can't crack the code on how its done. Are you planning on publishing an updated Turabian style with the date macro added soon?
(zugegriffen Juni 23, 2009)
but in German it should be
(zugegriffen am 23. Juni 2009)
Add the "am" and date format should be Day. Month Year
Zotero has no influence on the footnote/endnote symbol or number used.
The "include URL" should be unchecked - that way URLs only get included when there is no page range - i.e. not for most papers from JSTOR.
If you don't want the URL in any case that's would probably require a slight (but easy) modification of the style, but before I walk you through that I want to understand what exactly you need. Could you give some examples of where the URL appears and shouldn't?`Could you also maybe give an example or two where you would want a URL?
I don't want the url's to appear at all (except web pages, of course), and instead of
<if type="legal_case" match="none">
<if type="legal_case book thesis chapter article-journal article-newspaper article-magazine" match="none">
and that it was :)
I'm not sure if this is the right technical solution, but it made the url's disappear. Thanks again!
I am using the Turbarian style. The footnote format is fine, but the Bibliography should be formatted to reverse the name of the author giving Surname, Name (only of the first author in the case of multiple authors.) It doesn't do that for me - I have to manually change the authors so that they can be listed alphabetically. Can anything be done about that? I have no technical expertise.
Lastname1, Firstname1, and Firstname2 Lastname2
check your Zotero data - it needs to be in the two field format to work correctly - i.e. you need to see Lastname, Firstname in Zotero.
How, exactly can I use by EndNote items with Z?