Upgrade StorageZotero picker for Scrivener (Windows)
Like a lot of academics I've been searching around for a while for a better way to cite using Zotero and Scrivener. I don't mind having to scan my document after compilation using the ODF scan (http://zotero-odf-scan.github.io/zotero-odf-scan/), but what I really wanted was the ability to call up the zotero picker you see in the word plugging using a keyboard shortcut, without ever having to leave Srivener . You know... this thing:
http://mossiso.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/zotero-new-view-find-citation.png
Well, a while back I found Dave Smith's solution (https://github.com/davepwsmith/zotpick-applescript). The problem? I'm a windows user. But after stumbling across a powershell script online that didn't have any instructions, lots of trial and error and enlisting my partner who is actually a programmer for help debugging, I've finally got it to work!
Click the following link for instructions on how to use the Zotero picker in Scrivener: https://github.com/AmomentOfMusic/Zotero_scrivener_picker_windows
What this script does: using the keyboard shortcut to call up Bibliography/citation manager in Scrivener, this pulls up the Zotero picker and then inserts a scannable-cite citation directly into your document.
What this does not do: insert live citations in Scrivener. You will still have to scan the document after you compile.
It's a bit finicky to set up, but I think it is well the effort, and really streamlines the citation process. Happy citing!
*Disclaiming* I will try to answer as many questions as I can, but I am not a programmer... If anybody wants to find a way to package the whole thing a bit more neatly, be my guest.
(And totally unrelated... it would be really appreciated if the instructions for the conventions for posting things in rich text on forums would be more visible... I don't need a rich-text editor built in, but I spent a good 15+ minutes googling and I couldn't even figure out the convention to make things bold)
http://mossiso.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/zotero-new-view-find-citation.png
Well, a while back I found Dave Smith's solution (https://github.com/davepwsmith/zotpick-applescript). The problem? I'm a windows user. But after stumbling across a powershell script online that didn't have any instructions, lots of trial and error and enlisting my partner who is actually a programmer for help debugging, I've finally got it to work!
Click the following link for instructions on how to use the Zotero picker in Scrivener: https://github.com/AmomentOfMusic/Zotero_scrivener_picker_windows
What this script does: using the keyboard shortcut to call up Bibliography/citation manager in Scrivener, this pulls up the Zotero picker and then inserts a scannable-cite citation directly into your document.
What this does not do: insert live citations in Scrivener. You will still have to scan the document after you compile.
It's a bit finicky to set up, but I think it is well the effort, and really streamlines the citation process. Happy citing!
*Disclaiming* I will try to answer as many questions as I can, but I am not a programmer... If anybody wants to find a way to package the whole thing a bit more neatly, be my guest.
(And totally unrelated... it would be really appreciated if the instructions for the conventions for posting things in rich text on forums would be more visible... I don't need a rich-text editor built in, but I spent a good 15+ minutes googling and I couldn't even figure out the convention to make things bold)
WRT to better integration... the best way would be for L&L to integrate this straight into Scrivener. It should be drop-dead simple to do in a cross-platform way for them. Not holding my breath though.
And yeah... this method is far from ideal, I'll definitely be writing to them to have my voice heard. So far though, they seem pretty uninterested to make it any easier. Until then, hopefully this might help some people such as myself who are Windows users.
I've been in touch with L&L; they hardly ever answered my questions. They're not interested, academia isn't their primary audience. Could have been pretty nice though if they would also finally switch to pandoc. And wouldn't save all their stuff as RTF so it'd be git-friendly. I'd probably use it myself if they would.
Who am I kidding. They'd also have to add vim-emulation before I'd switch.
I hop we can have this feature in Zotero: https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/68793/feature-request-magic-citations-as-in-papers
Until that's released it's not likely to work well. There's a race condition I can't fix on my end.
It says "bib/cit manager not found...The bib/cit manager set in options could not be launched. Please check Options to ensure the correct manager is specified and check that it is installed correctly on your system."
What should I do? HELP！！！BTW I am using Zotero 5 and Scrivener 3
https://github.com/AmomentOfMusic/Zotero_scrivener_picker_windows/issues
(also - if you don't want the batch file to flash in front whenever you run the script, right click on the newly created shortcut and click properties. Change the drop down menu next to run to "minimized")
I'm not sure how to create a shortcut that is relative to the computers path... I'll look into it to try to make sure that future users don't have to create their own shortcut.
I finally can get launch Zotero, But nothing happened....the footnote cannot be inserted...
Could it be the conflict bewteen footnote short cut and zotero lauching/ reference shortcut?
It would be great to have Zotero pump up in Scrivener
When I push the shortcut key, picker pops up, I find the citation I'm looking for by typing. I then press enter, and voila, citation inserted.
FYI, this doesn't create a footnote. It merely pastes the citation text, in this case in the format of "scannable cite". Footnote will be created when you scan the citation code in ODT. If you want to have the citation code contained in a footnote, however, you can do that. Just create the footnote first, then press the reference citation key.
When you press enter, after you've selected the source you want from the picker (this thing http://mossiso.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/zotero-new-view-find-citation.png ), it will insert a place holder, known as "scannable cite" (see this page for what they look like, and how to scan it afterwards when you are exporting the document: https://catherinepope.com/how-to-use-zotero-with-scrivener-part-2/)
This place holder will be inserted wherever the cursor is at the moment. It does not actually create an independent footnote within Scrivener. Later, when you compile as ODT and scan the citation, a live Zotero citation will be created. It's at this point that Zotero will create a footnote.
So may be I should set up zotero by installing and choosing "scannable cite" for export format?
If afterwards there is still no scannable cite option in the drop down menu, try installing it manually (I had to do that... I was told it was fixed but it might still not be) See this forum post for details: https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/57428/scannable-cite-not-showing-up-in-zotero-standalone
Two more questions
1. after the doc being compiled and exported as word, the citations will be linked to t he Zotero lib, so that i can refresh the citation in the book in case I make changes in Zotero, is that right?
2. what if I insert a citation in a footnote in Scrivener then I come back and want to insert another citation to the same footnote, what should I do? The two citation should have a ";" in between...instead of a full stop
If you place citations immediately next to each other in Scrivener, the ODF scan process will place them in the same Zotero citation. The delimiter between sources is controlled by the style you pick.