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    • CommentAuthorTjowens
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007
     
    We would like to know what citation and bibliography styles people in the Zotero community are yearning for. Currently Zotero exports in MLA, APA, and three varieties of Chicago styles (and an ASA format is under development).

    Ultimately we intend to offer a utility which makes the process of developing new styles much more user friendly, but for the time being it is a bit more technical than our average user can muster. We are looking to put together more citation and bibliography styles that appeal to a broad audience. Post your requests for new formats in this thread. One of our programmers is going to be hammering out a handful of these styles and now is your chance to have your voice heard.
    • CommentAuthoraethralis
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007
     
    MHRA Style (http://www.mhra.org.uk/Publications/Books/StyleGuide/) would be much appreciated.
    • CommentAuthorKaischi
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007
     
    The elaborate style of the German Archaeological Institute would be worth a try: http://www.dainst.org/medien/de/richtlinien_keyword%20list_english.html
    BTW, is there a solution to incorporate mandatory abbreviations of periodica etc. into the citation?
    • CommentAuthorsrk
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007
     
    IEEE format would be very widely useful
    • CommentAuthorbsclavi
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007
     
    Science, Nature, Journal of Molecular Biology, Molecular Microbiology, PNAS .... unfortunately each one has its own quirks..... I also wanted to mention a bug that might need to be fixed: within the word document the format of the intext citation results in having two empty parenthesis after the first author's name...
    great program by the way, can't wait till I can access my bibliography from the computer at home, and on the road....
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    @kaischi: Yes, we plan to add abbreviated title functionality.
    • CommentAuthorbdarcus
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007 edited
     
    Emphasis here on "broad audience." The reason is that most styles are minor deviations from a handful of base styles. For example, journals in my field often derive from Chicago author-date or APA.

    Once we get the good collection of generic styles, it's easier to create more specific ones based on them.

    I'd say one notable hole in the current style offerings is in the sciences, math and so forth, but we need people from those areas to tell us what the handful of critical styles are.

    I guess one way is to ask what the most commonly used BibTeX styles are? Based on that, I recall AMS being one?

    Am working on two Bluebook styles for the law people, BTW. Just been swamped the past few months.
    • CommentAuthormrickma
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007
     
    Nature would be really helpful: http://www.nature.com/nature/authors/gta/index.html#a5.4 . This seems to cover also other Nature journals, e.g. Nature Neuroscience.
    • CommentAuthorGSG
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007
     
    A Harvard style would be great. Even better would be an EndNote style (.ens file) import function.
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    Not sure what format type it is, but this is what I use.
    Name FIMI (x6) et al. Title. Journal. Year;Volume(Issue):Pages.
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    CSE please!
    • CommentAuthorransomca
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007 edited
     
    A generic scientific style would be great. Ex:

    Author A, Author B, Author C and Author D. 2007. An example scientific reference. Journal of Zotero Forums 1(2): 3-4.

    or

    Author A, Author B, Author C, Author D (2007) An example scientific reference. J Zot For 1:3-4

    or something similar. You get the idea. Each journal has slightly different requirements, and if the format were close to this, with the ability to tweak slightly (and perhaps "Save as..." a custom format), that would be all we (I) would need.

    Also, there should be an option to choose: number (with a corresponding in-text citation of a number), sort alphabetically, or sort in order of appearance in the text (for the bibliography).
    • CommentAuthorbdarcus
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007
     
    @CSG -- there is a Harvard CSL file in my repository. It just hasn't made it into Zotero yet.

    As for an Endnote import function, part of the reason why we need an open format like CSL (which is XML) is precisely because aside from BibTeX's BST language, the rest are all proprietary and binary. So while it might be nice to have, I don't think it's that easy to do.

    I think the real mid-to-long-term solution is a really nice web app that allows users to create new styles by editing existing ones, and for those styles to then be distributed over the web; accessible to a variety of tools (including Zotero) not unlike weblog feeds and such.

    The kind of network effect that would enable would make it possible to build up a huge collection of styles fairly quickly.

    Alas, there's some infrastructure work still to be done to realize that, and we really need a web-design and coding wizard somewhere to step up and do it.
    • CommentAuthordrrayl
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007
     
    Footnote/Endnote formats for MLA and MHRA would be very useful
    • CommentAuthordengcomm
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007
     
    I agree with bdarcus that some minor changes can always be made by users themselves on the basis of some general form of citations. Having too many formats packed in zotero for all users would make it very unwieldy. the plugin way to do it would be good.
    There are just so many citation formats in English already, so it would be a great plus for zoteor if it can provide some formats for non-English users, say Chinese, Korean, Japan?
    I am writing my dissertation in the past few months, and given my suffers with Chinese ciation and bibliography and the fact that we lack a simply but effetive Chinese tool for this, Zotero will have chance to win huge Chinese users. Thanks for all the excellent work! Can't wait for the next beta version. It will come out within this week, right? Look very much forward to it but no press.
    • CommentAuthorpapetes
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2007
     
    History and Theory Style as is in Endnote. thanks
    • CommentAuthorpapetes
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2007
     
    History and theory
    • CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2007
     
    I'll be using the SBL Manual of Style, a variation on Chicago promoted by the Society of Biblical Literature.
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    I use MHRA as well,
    Thanks.
    • CommentAuthorbdarcus
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2007
     
    @dengcomm: see this.

    CSL styles are language-agnostic, and language terms are defined in these separate locales files. Feel free to send me a translation if you like.

    Note that Zotero would have to explicitly support the language feature for it to work. Not sure if it does yet or not.
    • CommentAuthorEd Hagen
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2007
     
    Nature and the Nature family of journals
    Science
    PNAS
    PLoS family of journals
    TRENDS family of journals.
    • CommentAuthorYam
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2007
     
    • CommentAuthorajw756
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2007
     
    I use IEEEXplore and Science Direct quite a bit and need to cite these in Harvard format.

    Thanks :-)
    • CommentAuthorsemckim
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2007
     
    Please add JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) citation style.

    http://jama.ama-assn.org/misc/ifora.dtl#References

    Thanks
    • CommentAuthorshilling
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2007
     
    Just to put in a shout out for legal (Bluebook) citations. There really isn't a good legal citation manager out there, especially for Macs ... and it's a style that probably has more people using it than almost any other citation style. You would capture a big market for Zotero if you got Bluebook citation and integration with Word right. Many thanks for your work on this.
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    Posting in support of raw bibtex entries, e.g. @book{author="",...} etc.

    With these, we (or the zotero back end) can generate any desired citation
    text simply by manipulating the latex bibliographic style rules.

    Thanks.
    • CommentAuthornoksagt
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007
     
    Zotero can already export raw bibtex.
    • CommentAuthorkibsb
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2007
     
    Hi:

    I need the support for Bibliographic/ Reference Vancouver Style. I´m thinking a new information service for bibliographic repository in Medical and Public Health Domain, so this extension is great for it.

    Best regards
    • CommentAuthorturadg
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2007
     
    I would like to see the ACM format supported in bibliography export and the Word citation plugin.

    http://www.acm.org/pubs/surveys/Formatting.html
    • CommentAuthorbrandyk
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2007
     
    MAJOR ditto for bluebook.
    • CommentAuthortshort
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2007
     
    IEEE. See their style guide for bibliographic formatting:

    http://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs_iportals/iportals/publications/authors/transjnl/stylemanual.pdf

    This link has other resources (including bibtex definitions):

    http://www.ieee.org/web/publications/authors/transjnl/index.html
    • CommentAuthorCobus_Z
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2007 edited
     
    The Harvard style as described in this link would be appreciated http://www.leeds.ac.uk/library/training/referencing/harvard.htm

    As a natural scientist I would also appreciate it if all the common formats are included, like Science: http://www.sciencemag.org/about/authors/prep/res/refs.dtl and Nature as mentioned above.

    I also think the following resource for LaTeX Style and BiBTeX could be of some help with the biology reference styles:

    http://www.lecb.ncifcrf.gov/~toms/latex.html
    • CommentAuthorARegan
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2007
     
    Most people I have spoken to in History have given up on tools like Endnote for generating citations, as it seems too hard to generate the simple Oxford style of footnote citation the discipline uses (author, title, place of publication, year, page). Endnote seems to want to generate a more complex citation style. Would it be possible to deliver it in Zotero?
    • CommentAuthoralisonpope
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    I would also support the calls for MHRA and Harvard
    • CommentAuthorchahol
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     

    Vancouver would be a very high priority!


    Vancouver style (uniform requirements for manuscripts submitted to biomedical journals)

    Vancouver, a "numbered" style, follows rules established by the International Committee of Medical Journal Editors - http://www.icmje.org/. It is also known as: Uniform Requirements for Manuscripts Submitted to Biomedical Journals.
    • CommentAuthorvaruul
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    for life sciences and many other tech things
    nature
    science
    CELL
    PLOS
    PNAS
    are essential, as mentioned by others before... also the vancouver style (as mentioned before).
    AND ... for people who want to .CSL their own styles it would be REALLY helpful if there was a quick import .CSL function in zotero. can't be hard to do, but would making trial and error a lot easier...

    tnx
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    @conference
    • CommentAuthorsantam
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2007
     
    I also would like to see the Vancouver style being supported. Although I am not a programmer I would be willing to help out in any way I can. You can get me at pgiresident at gmail dot com.
    • CommentAuthorcems
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2007
     
    YAML format for exports.

    For simple things like bibliography items XML is major overkill. it's both hard to read for humans, and hard to parse with any lightweight script.

    YAML format solves both issues.
    • CommentAuthorVarlokkur
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2007
     
    ASA is very close to AAA style and I look forward to its release.

    If you could develop an AAA style as well (spacing / indents are different, for one thing), that'd be great. Otherwise, I'll look forward to the more user-friendly method of customizing citations:

    http://www.aaanet.org/pubs/style_guide.pdf
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    I agree with bdarcus that some minor changes can always be made by users themselves on the basis of some general form of citations. Having too many formats packed in zotero for all users would make it very unwieldy. the plugin way to do it would be good.

    Ultimately we intend to offer a utility which makes the process of developing new styles much more user friendly, but for the time being it is a bit more technical than our average user can muster

    I think the priority should be on this utility. It needn't be complicated and in the medium to short-term it would save a lot of time generating the thousands of citation styles requested above. Even something with very basic functionality or capable of tweaking existing styles would be much appreciated as soon as it can be done...
    • CommentAuthorjiri.jim
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2007
     
    Definitely Harvard.

    Or better still make it a priority to allow users develop export styles - and ways to integrate them to wordprocessors, and the users will do all this themselves in no time.

    In the plug-in model for downloading the citation style people work with, as has been suggested by others, is an excellent idea to finist this off.
    • CommentAuthorantonh
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2007
     
    I'd really like to see the Australian Guide to Legal Citation (http://mulr.law.unimelb.edu.au/aglcdl.asp) supported. It's the default citation style for a large number of Australian legal journals.
    • CommentAuthorNate
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2007
     
    The ACS (American Chemical Society) format. It is used for the 36 journals published by the ACS.
    • CommentAuthorserge777
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2007
     
    Help computer colleagues.
    Lecture Notes in Computer Science is
    one of preferred formats for many conferences.
    • CommentAuthorkrisnelson
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2007
     
    Just want to add another request for Bluebook (U.S. legal) citation format. As has been pointed out, there isn't much available--at least in the Mac world--to effectively manage legal citations.

    And as a law student, I've discovered that managing legal citations for law review articles and other more academic legal writings is a MAJOR pain...
    • CommentAuthorstarfox3c
    • CommentTimeApr 23rd 2007
     
    Cse, definitely.
    • CommentAuthorlynnefox
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2007
     
    The AMA and ACS styles would be great for Science/Technical/Medical users of Zotero.
    • CommentAuthorbdarcus
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2007
     
    To all the people patiently waiting for Bluebook, it is coming. I've got a bit of time opening up soon, so should be able to finish it.

    We really need an easy-to-use web-based previewer and tester, though.
    • CommentAuthorRintze
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2007
     
    "We really need an easy-to-use web-based previewer and tester, though."

    Wouldn't a Firefox extension be the nicest way to implement such a tool? It would be very handy to be able to test new CSL-styles using citations within your own Zotero collection.

    I think easy MS Word integration and an extensive collection of output styles are two of the most important features that are still required to start drawing academic users in large numbers away from Endnote/Reference Manager.

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