No one disagrees that this is needed, but adding fields requires surprisingly significant behind the scenes changes (related mainly to syncing). Hence the delay in implementing this.
Worth noting, though, that a tentative decision was made to have CSL use the EDTF datetime standard in the future: http://www.loc.gov/standards/datetime/spec.html
That standard allows for the specification of calendar systems, so specification of calendar systems for output in CSL may come some day too.
The presence of a volume number in a citation should trigger me to manually enter the number of volumes in the one or two places it might be needed. Also, MLA is so flexible that might be left out.
It's at http://www.franklynam.com/blog.aspx?id=65
This shouldn't be so hard, given all the incredible work that went into Zotero...
Otherwise, Zotero rocks.
Both the in-line citation and the bibliography are properly formatted to include original date of publication.
If anyone wants to use this CSL stylesheet, you can find it at:
Once downloaded, you would need to drag the file onto an open Firefox window to install it as a Zotero style. Then, when the Zotero Word Plug-in asks what style citations to use, select "American Psychological Association 6th edition with original date of publication".
Of course, if you don't use APA, this is not much help, though perhaps it will inspire others to do the same for other formats. (I generated it using the Visual CSL Editor.)
Does anyone know when the scheduled release date for 4.2 is? Looking on the dev forums I couldn't find anything very specific.
The above stylesheet implements this for the "Loc. in Archive" field; all that is missing is the switch in Zotero to display that field's name as "original date of publication"
In the context of a book chapter, the original date of publication [odp] can refer to:
-the odp of the chapter (if the book is a collection of already published essays) :
John Doe, "My Life" , in id., Collected Essays, London : Routledge, 1982.
-the odp of the book itself :
Paulette Durand, "Ma jeunesse", in id, Ma vie, Paris : Gallimard, 2014 .
It's rare, but not impossible, that both odp need to appear in the citation/bibliography (eg. reprint of a collection of translated articles ?)
A paper is published in a journal as an article (in, say, 1953) and then as a book chapter of some collected essays (e.g. in 1982). The book is then republished (e.g. in 2014).
Actually, I think that the odp in the case of a book chapter should refer to the chapter and not the book. In practice, that's probably the most important information. But, just to be sure, what do you think of that ?
Otherwise the "book chapter" item has two original dates and should have two fields to store them. (btw the advantage of hierarchical data model is obvious there).
Is that a requirement of any citation guide?
Better data display along the lines of Gracile's old proposal for this would help with that, but we'd still have the two date fields which we'd then have to deal with at every corner of the way--export, CSL, etc.
It would take a bit to convince me that this is a common enough issue to justify the substantial burden it poses in implementation.
Personally, I could accept here a little ambiguity: How the data is stored is mostly controlled by the user and how the data is displayed is describe in the used style. However, a default/standard assumption (what the original publication date for book section normally refers to) might be helpful.
- p. 4, for books if the original date is given then in the form (1971) 21982
- p. 5, for chapters see "Beiträge in Aufsatzsammlungen eines Autors, die nicht nach der Erstpublikation, sondern nach dem Abdruck in dieser Sammlung zitiert werden" where the original-date refers indeed to the chapter and not the book, e.g. K.BARTH, Biblische Fragen, Einsichten und Ausblicke (1920; in: DERS., Das Wort Gottes und die Theologie. Gesammelte Vorträge, 1924, 70–98), 82. The book itself was published 1924, 1925, and 1929.
I like to put the original edition date in every publication because using only the publishing date means you can make a 2014 only bibliography (a very updated state of the art) with 50's texts.
This thread started in 2008 and 6 years later this is still unresolved...