Upgrade StorageStyle Request: Oscola
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The basic way this works is:
- If a case has a court and a docket number --> square bracket
- Else if volume --> parentheses
- Else do not include a date decided, but but the date in square brackets into the reporter volume field
I'm sorry it's such a mess, but same as above - since we don't have the variables and data structure to fully deal with law this was always going to be hackish. That's why the samples for data entry are crucial.
Which fields apart from publisher would be important?
1.3 Punctuation, ranges of numbers and years, and foreign words
1.3.1 Punctuation
OSCOLA uses as little punctuation as possible . Abbreviations and initials in author’s
names do not take full stops . For example, Appeal Cases is cited as ‘AC’ and the
Director of Public Prosecutions is abbreviated to ‘DPP’ . Insert commas to separate
items that may otherwise run together and cause confusion, such as runs of numbers
or authors and titles .
Malcolm v DPP [2007] EWHC 363 (Admin), [2007] 1 WLR 1230
JG Fleming, ‘Remoteness and Duty: The Control Devices in Liability for
Negligence’ (1953) 31 Can Bar Rev 471
When citing authorities from other jurisdictions, do not include full stops in the
citation
1.3.3 Foreign words
In the text, italicize foreign words and phrases, but not quotations. Provide a
translation immediately afterwards in brackets, or in a footnote, if required . Do
not italicize words that are in common usage in legal English, such as ultra vires,
stare decisis, obiter dicta, ratio decidendi, a priori and a fortiori. Commonly used
abbreviations, such as ie and eg, are not italicized and have no full stops
1.4 Citing foreign materials
When referring to foreign materials, cite primary sources as in their home
jurisdiction, with the exception that full stops in abbreviations should be dropped.
Guides for other jurisdictions can be found in section 4.3 of the appendix. Cite
secondary sources in accordance with the OSCOLA rules governing the citation of
secondary sources
However, somewhere along the way the changes have affected my ability to save citations directly from the Oxford library catalogue, Solo (see here http://solo.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/primo_library/libweb/action/search.do?dstmp=1384250014&dum=true&vid=OXVU1&vl%28freeText0%29=&fn=search )
I used to be able to click the Zotero icon in my browser and the data would populate immediately in my chosen library in my Zotero client. I can still do this for articles I find online and books through other catalogues, such as Amazon or whatever, but for some reason this doesn't seem to be working for the Oxford library system. Any help much appreciated.
If you want it fixed, I suggest you create a separate thread in the "Site translators" forum.
EG:
x. Pierre Simon marq de Laplace, A Philosophical Essay on Probabilities (Frederick Wilson Truscott and FI Emory trs, 1st edn, New York &c 1902) 4; See also Immanuel Kant, The Critique of Practical Reason (Indo-European Publishing 2011)76.
Should be:
x. Pierre Simon marq de Laplace, A Philosophical Essay on Probabilities (Frederick Wilson Truscott and FI Emory trs, 1st edn, New York &c 1902)4. See also Immanuel Kant, The Critique of Practical Reason (Indo-European Publishing 2011) 76.
The way to handle this is to put two separate citations in your footnote. Insert the first footnote, and the immediately after press the spacebar and type "See also" and then insert a new citation by pressing the button on the Zotero toolbar.
@adamsmith
For me the commas before and after the supra cite (n X) are still appearing after updating the style and refreshing the document. Did you fix that, or was my previous post regarding this overlooked?
An example footnote (square brackets indicate the Zotero field):
"[See Mulgan, ‘Accountability’, (n 4), 555 quoted in section] 2.3 above."
The text (2.3 above) after the Zotero field is also a field, namely a reference to a heading in my document. Since it is not possible to use field references in the "prefix" and "suffix" of a Zotero, I have always been doing my citations like this. But when the new OSCOLA now automatically adds a period at the end of the citation, such "hacks" become impossible.
Any chance that you could remove the automatic period from the style? Or is there any way I can work around or suppress it without modifying the style to take out the period?
Re Periods: For Paul's problem what Oby says. For periods generally, there is really no decent solution. There is no way to suppress periods per citation, no. It's not hard to remove periods from the style, but since all footnote styles currently include periods (for good reasons, btw.) I won't do this. It's very easy to customize, though. https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1956/citation-chicago-manual-of-style/#Comment_40588
Re Supra notes: yep, I didn't see that. Will include it in the next update, thanks for the reminder.
Posner RA, ‘The Decline of Law as an Autonomous Discipline: 1962-1987’ (1987) 100 Harvard Law Review 761
Posner RA, Overcoming Law (Harvard University Press 1995)
Posner RA, Economic Analysis of Law (7th ed.., Aspen Publishers 2007)
But:
Leiter B, ‘Rethinking Legal Realism: Toward a Naturalized Jurisprudence’ (1997) 76 Texas Law Review 267
——, ‘Legal Realism’ in Dennis Patterson (ed), The Blackwell Guide to the Philosophy of Law and Legal Theory (Blackwell Publishers 1999)
——, ‘Legal Realism and Legal Positivism Reconsidered’ (2001) 111 Ethics 278
——, ‘Postscript to Part I: Interpreting Legal Realism’, Naturalizing Jurisprudence (Oxford University Press 2007)
Richard A
Richard A.
R. A.
RA
are all interpreted as different authors.
59. Daniel Dennett, ‘Intentional Systems Theory’ in Ansgar Beckermann, Brian P McLaughlin and Sven Walter (eds), The Oxford Handbook of Philosophy of Mind (Oxford University Press 2009) para 19.1.
60. Daniel Dennett, ‘Intentional Systems Theory’ in Ansgar Beckermann, Brian P McLaughlin and Sven Walter (eds), The Oxford Handbook of Philosophy of Mind (Oxford University Press 2009) paras. 19.1, 19.2, and 19.5; Dennett, The Intentional Stance, 22; Roderick M Chisholm, ‘Sentences About Believing’ (1955) 56 Proceedings of the Aristotelian Society 125, 131–32; Steven Pinker, How the Mind Works (W.W. Norton 2009) p 78.
Similarly the following (n.)s are a bit wacky:
54. Daniel C Dennett, The Intentional Stance (MIT Press 1993) p 16; Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion (New Ed with additions, Black Swan 2007) p 211.
55. Pierre Simon marq de Laplace, A Philosophical Essay on Probabilities (Frederick Wilson Truscott and FI Emory trs, 1st edn, New York &c 1902)4; See also Immanuel Kant, The Critique of Practical Reason (Indo-European Publishing 2011)76.
56. Dennett, The Intentional Stance, p 23.
57. Daniel C Dennett, The Intentional Stance (MIT Press 1993).
58. Dennett, The Intentional Stance, (n 1), 17.
This is nothing the style would do. It's certainly possible it's a processor bug, in which case this should be taken to a different thread, but the initial diagnosis would be that there are just two versions of the same item in your library.
How do those same footnotes look if you switch to Chicago Manual (full note)?
e purposes of this thesis.{ | Dennett, (1993) |p 16| |zotero://select/items/0_NI9PUPSH}{ | Dawkins, 2007 |p 211| | zotero://select/items/0_HJ3UWXT3} This idea has long been recognised. Laplace, for example, conceived of an intelligence able to comprehend the state of the universe and all the forces of nature for whom ‘nothing would be uncertain and the future, as the past, would be present to its eyes.'{ | Laplace, 1902 | |4| zotero://select/items/0_NJ2KU5NF}{See also | Kant, 2011 | |76| zotero://select/items/0_B9E6ZB6S} A Laplacean omniscient physicist could predict the behaviour of an individual to perfection.{ | Dennett, (1993) |p 23| |zotero://select/items/0_NI9PUPSH}
s fit into. He distinguishes between the intentional stance and the physical stance.{ | Dennett, (1993) | | |zotero://select/items/0_NI9PUPSH}
instances yield a decision about what the agent ought to do; that is what you predict the agent will do.’{ | Dennett, (1993) |p. 17| |zotero://select/items/0_NI9PUPSH}
Eg this case http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/eu/cases/ECHR/2013/645.html&query=title+(+vinter+)&method=boolean
Comes up as VINTER AND OTHERS v THE UNITED KINGDOM - 66069/09 130/10 3896/10 - Grand Chamber Judgment [2013] ECHR 645 (Unreported, ECHR (2013), 9 July 2013) (ECHR (2013))
when it should be simply
Vinter and Ors v UK [2013] ECHR 645 (GC)
in the Oscola style.
See, eg,
Uttley, R (on the application of) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2004] UKHL 38 (Unreported, UKHL (2004), 30 July 2004) (UKHL (2004))
https://www.zotero.org/groups/oscola_samples/items/order/itemType
(these are the exact same citations used as exacmples in the guide)
legal metadata is a mess in the first place and as I say above, most of this isn't possible to do properly unless you're using MLZ Zotero, so you won't get cases cited correctly from automatic input and you will have to follow the data input template exactly to get the desired output.
@Paul - how about my question about Chicago Manual. How do the same citations look there?
@everybody else, thank you for all your comments and assistance!
54. Dennett, The Intentional Stance, (n 20), p 16; Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion (New Ed with additions, Black Swan 2007) p 211.
...
56. Dennett, The Intentional Stance, (n 20), p 23.
57. Dennett, The Intentional Stance, (n 20).
58. Ibid 17.
@adamsmith (actually just for folks who come across this thread): Note 57 will render as "ibid" if any pinpoint is given on the cite. It's rendered in full form in this case because it's a global reference to the source, and a bare "ibid" would signify p. 23 in that sequence.
- Should fix the commas issue for supra notes reported by Oby.
- Also strips periods from a number of fields where it looked unproblematic to me, including publisher.
- It won't label cases as unreported anymore.
This is not the correct behavior. eBooks are to be cited as regular books, as long as the files downloaded have pagenumbers corresponding to the physical printed books.