Zotero overrides styles of citations in Word (always Times New Roman)
I'm using Zotero 1.5 Beta and the Word for Mac 2008 alpha plugin (I'm running the most recent versions of Leopard, Word, and Zotero; all just freshly installed). When I add citations, they do not take on the formatting style of the surrounding text. This is true in footnotes and bibliography. When I block the text and then change the style to match the surrounding text, that works only temporarily. As soon as I use Zotero's "refresh", it all reverts back to Time Roman. In the footnotes, this is even worse, because changing the style eliminates all italics.
This seems such a fundamental problem, that I spent quite a bit of time searching the documentation and forum for an answer to this, but I've not seen others with this problem.
This seems such a fundamental problem, that I spent quite a bit of time searching the documentation and forum for an answer to this, but I've not seen others with this problem.
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/4185/
I add a reference and generate a bibliography. If I click on the bibliography, the style in the formatting palette is 'Norma l+ Left: 0", Hanging: 0.27"'. If I click on the dropdown & select "modify style," I am able to change the font & select "automatically update." The font changes in the bibliography; the style name stays the same. If I insert another reference or regenerate the bibliography, the style name stays the same & so does the font.
Again, I see no way in the code for Zotero to modify styles. So, please make sure you're changing styles in the correct way in your Word document.
I add a reference. The citation in the footnoteis in Times New Roman, even though the style for footnote text is Garamond. If I write text outside of the citation in the footnote, that text comes out as it should in Garamond.
If I do a "edit/select all" on the footnotes and then manually change type to Garamond in all the notes, the typeface changes to Times New Roman when I do a refresh in the Zotero menu.
Another thing: while citations in the notes are overriding the style for footnote text in the manner described above (Times N.R. instead of Garamond), "ibid" comes out according to style (i.e., Garamond). Strange, innit?
In Word 2008 for Mac, I use a style for text and footnote with Verdana as the font. If I use author:date, the text of the citations matches the rest of the text (Verdana). If I modify document preferences to a citation format that uses a footnote, the text changes to Times New Roman -- except, as noted, the "ibid". The bibliography is then also in Times New Roman. If I manually change it to Verdana, the Zotero citation text reverts to Times New Roman when I "refresh".
It seems like the specificity of the problem -- especially the clues about "ibid" and footnote/main text -- would make this solvable. Any ideas?
Mac OS 10.5.7
Zotero 2.0
Word 2008 (12.1.7)
Firefox 3.0.10
If I re-apply the journal's style, I lose hanging indents. These indents work, along with fonts, etc. using this style in OpenOffice / NeoOffice on the same machine. But since I'm collaborating with someone, using fields saves a lot of headaches - so I'd rather use word (at least for now).
Note also that the zotero plugin on mac word 2008 uses applescript, not the VB stuff. Don't know if that matters (or even how to look at that code - where is it?).
Which isn't to say that this is desirable behavior. Note that the plugins are mostly beta, some even alpha or experimental, so a lot of things will improve still. I've seen Dan mention updated plugins here a number of times, so those will be coming reasonably soon - I don't know, though, if they'll address this issue.
are there any news on that problem? Just for information. I had that problem also with Plugin 1.0.xx. But after a while it work fine. Unfortunately with version 2.xx the problem came back
Greets zotomat
I've tried
Ecology
Lichenologist
Oikos
Journal of Ecology
to name a few
Any Ideas?
Greets
So my best guess is still that somewhere TNR is defined as a default - but obviously I can't say for sure. It's been a while since I've worked with Word, so I can't easily give you detailed instructions, but maybe someone else can think of something.
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/8901/word-plugin-bibliography-formatting-inconsistent-between-word-2003-and-2007/
I believe that adding support for a new parameter in CSL files to "keep-current-style" would help resolve this bug for all.
Currently on 2.0b7.4.
Anyway, it appears to me that Word 2003 and Word 2007 differ from each other. In my case Word 2007 applies the TNR from the given RTF with the before- and after- paragraph spacing overwritten to 0 whereas Word 2003 uses the default paragraph style.
BTW, for the font itself there is a way to specify a desired font through the font-family attribute that you can put for example in a group element in the CSL file. I still think a better way would be to have an option to use the current style of the paragraph where the bibliography is to be inserted.
You can find it here:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx?&lang=&cr=&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.word.docmanagement&p=1&tid=654407C4-2A0B-4B6F-997C-04048110A644&mid=654407C4-2A0B-4B6F-997C-04048110A644
Look for the post by "Jay Freedman" on 8/16/2008 at 8:44am. If you're working with Endnote you'll need to do what he says but to the "Endnote" style rather than the "Footnote." It works!