Cite Note/Annotation in Word: Only add reference, no body text
I am new to Zotero, coming from Citavi.
I installed Zotero 10 yesterday, I work with the Word plugin in Word 365 on a Windows 11 machine. I have not added any plugins or add-ons to Zotero. I intend to use OSCOLA 4th edn. as citation style.
My workflow would be as follows:
1. Add a source in Zotero, attach a pdf.
2. Read the pdf, highlight an interesting section and add a comment ("annotation") to the highlight. This comment is intended for my internal thought process, I would for example highlight a paragraph and comment a very short summary and maybe personal thoughts. (Let's take for example the Odyssee, I would highlight the part about Odysseus' stay with Circe and comment "Odysseus stays with Circe for a year. Shouldn't have done that.")
3. Write my document in Word. When I get to the relevant point, I want to reference the source I had read before, specifically the location that I have added the annotation for. I click "add annotation" and select the annotation that I had made. I would maybe write a paragraph describing Odysseus' time with Circe. To cite a source, I would cite the annotation I had made earlier to insert a reference. But I do not want to add a quote from the Odyssee or the comment that I had made for my own purposes.)
This is where Zotero behaves differently than I want it to. It adds (a) the quote I had highlighted, (b) a footnote with the reference, (c) the comment I attached to the annotation. (a) and (c) are shown here in red, (b) in green.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u21305170/4krf8a27tjl7u2aa9ww2.png
However, I do not want Zotero to add to my body text (red), I only want the reference in the footnote (green).
A similar thing happens when I cite a note instead:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u21305170/vzufrw6nqk6e5ujwys7u.png
Only when I use "add citation", Zotero adds only the reference and no additional text in my document. But that way, I have to manually input the page number that I first have to remember or note down some other way.
Am I doing something wrong? Could this be fixed?
I would appreciate any input. Thank you also for your patience, English is not my first language, I am happy to clarify if necessary.
I installed Zotero 10 yesterday, I work with the Word plugin in Word 365 on a Windows 11 machine. I have not added any plugins or add-ons to Zotero. I intend to use OSCOLA 4th edn. as citation style.
My workflow would be as follows:
1. Add a source in Zotero, attach a pdf.
2. Read the pdf, highlight an interesting section and add a comment ("annotation") to the highlight. This comment is intended for my internal thought process, I would for example highlight a paragraph and comment a very short summary and maybe personal thoughts. (Let's take for example the Odyssee, I would highlight the part about Odysseus' stay with Circe and comment "Odysseus stays with Circe for a year. Shouldn't have done that.")
3. Write my document in Word. When I get to the relevant point, I want to reference the source I had read before, specifically the location that I have added the annotation for. I click "add annotation" and select the annotation that I had made. I would maybe write a paragraph describing Odysseus' time with Circe. To cite a source, I would cite the annotation I had made earlier to insert a reference. But I do not want to add a quote from the Odyssee or the comment that I had made for my own purposes.)
This is where Zotero behaves differently than I want it to. It adds (a) the quote I had highlighted, (b) a footnote with the reference, (c) the comment I attached to the annotation. (a) and (c) are shown here in red, (b) in green.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u21305170/4krf8a27tjl7u2aa9ww2.png
However, I do not want Zotero to add to my body text (red), I only want the reference in the footnote (green).
A similar thing happens when I cite a note instead:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u21305170/vzufrw6nqk6e5ujwys7u.png
Only when I use "add citation", Zotero adds only the reference and no additional text in my document. But that way, I have to manually input the page number that I first have to remember or note down some other way.
Am I doing something wrong? Could this be fixed?
I would appreciate any input. Thank you also for your patience, English is not my first language, I am happy to clarify if necessary.
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In an upcoming version, Zotero will offer the current page number in the reader when citing an open document (which you could get to by double-clicking the annotation in the items list in Zotero's library tab). It's sounds like that's what you're looking for.
For me, the whole point of annotations or notes is to remember where to find something I want to cite later. Maybe like a bookmark if you will.
As I see it, in the current state, there is no way within the Zotero Word plugin to add only a reference in a footnote, without remembering by heart which page it is on or manually checking in the source again.
That is a little cumbersome to me, because usually (in Citavi, so far) I read a bunch of sources at a time, take notes along the way, tag and categorize the notes. I might not even write the resulting text until months later. But when that time comes, I have all the notes that I had taken before, and can compile my text, referencing the sources along the way without having to look at them again.
I understand that that is not (yet) a feature and I will have to find a workaround. I appreciate your help nonetheless, thank you.