Volume title field?

v4u6h4n
Hey all, after seeing all the new fields (which are much appreciated!), I was surprised that volume title wasn't one of them. Just wondering if this is in the pipeline?
  • aborel
    I'm not sure it matches your use case, but have you tried using that title as the Book Title, the container title as Series and the volume number as Series Number?
  • v4u6h4n
    So far I've just been adding "volume-title: [volume title]" to the Extra field, after seeing that being advised in some other threads.
  • adamsmith
    I agree, volume title comes up a fair amount for books, so I think adding it to Zotero makes sense (I'm guessing it just got overlooked)
  • v4u6h4n
    Okay that's good to hear :-) Yeah it will be very helpful once it's included! I have a few 30+ volume collections that get a bit tedious to manage.
  • dunning
    If I may make a few suggestions on implementing this: books also need the part number and title fields (the same as in journal articles) alongside volume titles. For example: https://www.zotero.org/groups/2205533/items/P3WCZ5HS.

    Support for the volume-title variable needs to be added to journal articles as well, to support an issue title, e.g. https://www.zotero.org/groups/2205533/items/6VYDHCV4. I might suggest renaming the Series Title or Series Text field to Issue Title and mapping it to volume-title. It looks from old documentation as if these were originally intended to support what is now covered by the volume-title and section variables. (A 'series' with a periodical usually refers to '3rd series', 'new series', etc., which does not have a further title, so the Series field is enough to cover this on its own.) Series Title is double-mapped to collection-title, while Series Text is not mapped to anything.
  • v4u6h4n
    Ah I had forgotten about series titles for periodicals, as that isn't an issue for me anywhere near as often, but I have encountered it a couple times (and yes it was "New Series" most recently I believe).

  • frigidilius
    @dunning I'm using SBL2. I followed the template I saw in another forum (https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/129679/citing-multivolume-books-with-distinct-volume-titles/p1) using the volume-title shortcut in the extra field, but it didn't churn out the title in Word. Is that because I'm using SBL2 for some reason? Thanks.
  • v4u6h4n
    @frigidilius I'm using Chicago 18th and I see the volume title in my citations using the volume-title shortcut in the extra field.
  • dunning
    @frigidilius Nobody has yet programmed support for volume or part titles in SBL. APA, Chicago, MHRA, MLA, and Oxford all support these variables fully.
  • frigidilius
    That makes better sense; thanks @dunning. Coming from an ignoramus, @dstark @adamsmith, how hard would it be to copy and past whatever's been programmed from these other citation formats into SBLH2? Or is copying and pasting even a thing for the likes of this?
  • adamsmith
    For that specific scenario -- it would be impossible. That said, we've now seen a couple of pretty decent AI generated CSL style updates, so you could try that if it's of interest (I don't what tools/toolchain works, though). Since you can't really break much with a bad/broken CSL style, there's not much too lose.
  • dstark
    @frigidilius, the closest I think I've gotten on this front is something like in the following RDF. It's hacky and doesn't translate well to other styles but does provide correct output for SBLHS2.


    <rdf:RDF>
    <bib:Book rdf:about="#item_12934">
    <z:itemType>book</z:itemType>
    <dcterms:isPartOf>
    <bib:Series>
    <dc:title>
    A Grammar of New Testament Greek<i>, by James Hope Moulton, 4 <span class="nocase">vols.</span></i>
    </dc:title>
    </bib:Series>
    </dcterms:isPartOf>
    <dc:publisher>
    <foaf:Organization>
    <vcard:adr>
    <vcard:Address>
    <vcard:locality>Edinburgh</vcard:locality>
    </vcard:Address>
    </vcard:adr>
    <foaf:name>T&T Clark</foaf:name>
    </foaf:Organization>
    </dc:publisher>
    <bib:authors>
    <rdf:Seq>
    <rdf:li>
    <foaf:Person>
    <foaf:surname>Turner</foaf:surname>
    <foaf:givenName>Nigel</foaf:givenName>
    </foaf:Person>
    </rdf:li>
    </rdf:Seq>
    </bib:authors>
    <dc:subject>#nosource</dc:subject>
    <dc:subject>Attachments - Stored</dc:subject>
    <dc:title>Syntax</dc:title>
    <dc:date>1908-1976</dc:date>
    <z:language>na</z:language>
    <z:shortTitle>Syntax</z:shortTitle>
    <dc:description>issued: 1908/1976</dc:description>
    <prism:volume>3</prism:volume>
    <z:numberOfVolumes>4</z:numberOfVolumes>
    <z:citationKey>TurnerSyntax1908</z:citationKey>
    </bib:Book>
    </rdf:RDF>
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