Medline OVID - Title problem with Save to Zotero button

Hi,
In Medline OVID, when I use the "Save to Zotero (OVID)" button, for references with the publication title beginning by "Canadian journal of [,,,]", "American journal of [...]", "European journal of [... ]", etc, the journal title is not completly saved in Zotero.

For instance, for an article published in the "American journal of public health", when I save it in Zotero through the button "Save to Zotero (OVID)", the title becomes "Journal of Public health". In the different cases, Zotero seems to eliminate the first word of the journal title : "American", of "Canadian", or "European", etc... are not saved in the Zotero record.
  • Curious:
    This doesn't need to be the OVID Medline database. I can reproduce this problem in several OVID databases.

    For journal names beginning with "American," "Canadian," etc. the first word is dropped. However, journal titles such as, Journal of rural health, Qualitative Health Research and Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine do not have the first word dropped upon import into Zotero but the last journal imports as "Journal of Occupational". Could this last journal title truncation be because in most places the title contains an ampersand instead of the word "and"? The web screen version uses "and" and not an ampersand.

    Example--
    Journal:
    American journal of industrial medicine
    Article title:
    Adult lead exposure from ammunition reloading and indoor residential shooting
    Ovid: 01445365-202008000-00011
    DOI: 10.1002/ajim.23119


    I'm not sure where the Ovid translator gets the metadata. The RIS export doesn't contain the journal title only the journal abbreviation. The XML export includes the _full_ journal title.
  • So, it seems that the solution would be not to use the "Save to Zotero Button" ?

    In fact, I observed another problem (maybe already pointed out by others in this forum ???) with using this button in OVID Medline (but not in OVID Psychinfo OR OVID Embase)

    If a reference use an abstract written in a certain way, using for instance OBJECTIVES / METHODS / CONCLUSIONS, when I use the "Save to Zotero button", the abstract only include the "CONCLUSIONS" part. The previous parts of the abstract do not appears in Zotero.

    So, I should use the export function in OVID Medline. But this method has also a minor problem. If the reference do not include a issue number, in Zotero, the issue number field is now occupied by the NLM journal code of the article.
    You can try it with the following article: 33398347.ui.


  • edited January 31, 2021
    Unless you have a really good reason for using OVID to search Medline you should use the free PubMed interface. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

    edit: This suggestion, obviously, doesn't improve the situation for other OVID databases.
  • edited February 1, 2021
    And also, we have very good reasons to use OVID Medline instead of PubMed.
  • I'm afraid I don't have any OVID access. We're using their standard tagged format, which looks something like this:
    <53. >
    VN - Ovid Technologies
    DB - PsycINFO
    AN - Dissertation Abstract: 2014-99150-257. (...)

    If someone can post the data for problematic items here, I can try to take a look.
  • Hi,
    If you are looking for an OVID file for Medline, in tagged format, here is one:

    <1>
    UI 33523536
    TI Observance of preoperative clear fluid fasting in paediatric anaesthesia: oral and written information versus text message information. A before-and-after study.
    SO Paediatric Anaesthesia. 2021 Feb 01.
    AS Paediatr Anaesth. 2021 Feb 01.
    VI 1
    RO From MEDLINE, a database of the U.S. National Library of Medicine.
    ST Publisher
    AU Thomasseau A; Rebollar Y; Dupuis M; Marschal N; Mcheik J; Debaene B; Frasca D; Boisson M.
    AI Boisson, M; ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0003-3667-5782
    FA Thomasseau, A; Rebollar, Y; Dupuis, M; Marschal, N; Mcheik, J; Debaene, B; Frasca, D; Boisson, M.
    IN Thomasseau, A. Service d'anesthesie-reanimation et medecine perioperatoire, CHU de Poitiers, 2, rue de la miletrie, 86021, Poitiers cedex, France.
    Rebollar, Y. Service d'anesthesie-reanimation et medecine perioperatoire, CHU de Poitiers, 2, rue de la miletrie, 86021, Poitiers cedex, France.
    Dupuis, M. Service d'anesthesie-reanimation et medecine perioperatoire, CHU de Poitiers, 2, rue de la miletrie, 86021, Poitiers cedex, France.
    Marschal, N. Service d'anesthesie-reanimation et medecine perioperatoire, CHU de Poitiers, 2, rue de la miletrie, 86021, Poitiers cedex, France.
    Mcheik, J. CHU de Poitiers, 2, rue de la miletrie, 86021, Poitiers cedex, France.
    Mcheik, J. Faculte de Medecine et de Pharmacie, Universite de Poitiers, 6 rue de la miletrie, 86000, Poitiers, France.
    Debaene, B. Service d'anesthesie-reanimation et medecine perioperatoire, CHU de Poitiers, 2, rue de la miletrie, 86021, Poitiers cedex, France.
    Debaene, B. Faculte de Medecine et de Pharmacie, Universite de Poitiers, 6 rue de la miletrie, 86000, Poitiers, France.
    Frasca, D. Service d'anesthesie-reanimation et medecine perioperatoire, CHU de Poitiers, 2, rue de la miletrie, 86021, Poitiers cedex, France.
    Frasca, D. Faculte de Medecine et de Pharmacie, Universite de Poitiers, 6 rue de la miletrie, 86000, Poitiers, France.
    Boisson, M. Service d'anesthesie-reanimation et medecine perioperatoire, CHU de Poitiers, 2, rue de la miletrie, 86021, Poitiers cedex, France.
    Boisson, M. Faculte de Medecine et de Pharmacie, Universite de Poitiers, 6 rue de la miletrie, 86000, Poitiers, France.
    NJ Paediatric anaesthesia
    PI Journal available in: Print-Electronic. Citation processed from: Internet
    JC cg8, 9206575
    IO Paediatr Anaesth
    SB Index Medicus
    CP France
    KW anaesthesia
    child pre-operative fasting
    paediatrics.
    AB INTRODUCTION: Prolonged fasting before surgery is common in paediatrics. In the literature, it is responsible for hypotension, irritability and post-operative nausea and vomiting. Despite clear instructions given during the preanesthetic consultation, fasting rules are respected in only 30% to 40% of cases. We aimed to evaluate the benefit of sending a text message the day before surgery to improve the parents observance to of fasting rules.

    METHODS: We conducted a before-and-after study at the University Hospital of Poitiers. From August to October 2018, 172 parents of children under 15 years of age, scheduled for all types of surgery were enrolled into two groups according to the period: the control group with parents receiving information on preoperative fasting rules during the preanesthetic consultation several days before surgery, and the text message group, receiving the same information during consultation plus a text message the day before the surgery.

    RESULTS: There was a difference in observance to of clear fluid fasting instructions (between 2 and 3 h before the admission at hospital) in favour of the text message group 33% versus 92% OR 29.2 (10.9 - 95.2) p<0.001, and in average fasting time on for clear fluids 8.7 h +/- 4.8 h versus 4.3 h +/- 2.4 h (p<0.001).

    CONCLUSION: Sending of a reminder text message to the parents the day before the surgery resulted in a significant increase in observance to of fasting rules in children undergoing scheduled surgery. Copyright This article is protected by copyright. All rights reserved.
  • No, the format which we're using -- maybe they have it as Endnote export? -- has hyphens after the tags, so "TI - " etc.
  • edited February 2, 2021
    @adamsmith

    The following cannot explain why Zotero omits the first word of the title only when it is the name of a nation. My curiosity is raging! I can send other examples if helpful.

    Export formats from OVID for an article from American Journal of Industrial Medicine imported to Zotero as "Journal of Industrial Medicine".

    EndNote

    <6. >
    VN - Ovid Technologies
    DB - Journals@Ovid
    AN - 01445365-201506000-00011.
    AU - Lefkowitz, Rafael Y. MD, MPH 1
    AU - Slade, Martin D. MPH 1
    AU - Redlich, Carrie A. MD, MPH 1
    IN - (1)Yale Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Yale School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut
    TI - "Injury, Illness, and Work Restriction in Merchant Seafarers". [Article]
    SO - American Journal Of Industrial Medicine June 2015;58(6):688-696
    AB - Background: Research on seafarer medical conditions at sea is limited. This study describes the frequency and distribution of seafarer injury and illness at sea, and explores potential risk factors for resultant lost work., Materials and Methods: The study analyzed a telemedicine database of 3,921 seafarer medical cases between 2008 and 2011 using descriptive statistics and logistic regression., Results: There were over twice as many illness cases (n = 2,764, 70.5%) as injury (n = 1,157, 29.5%) cases. Disability was more often secondary to illness (n = 646, 54.3%), predominantly from gastrointestinal, dermatologic, and respiratory conditions. Logistic regression revealed age, rank, and worksite as potential risk factors for lost work., Conclusions: This study emphasizes illness as a significant problem occurring in seafarers at sea. Future research should further elucidate risk factors for illness, as well as injury, to inform preventive measures and reduce seafarer disability. Am. J. Ind. Med. 58:688-696, 2015. (C) 2015 Wiley Periodicals, Inc., (C) 2015 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd
    KW - seafarers; disability; telemedicine; occupational injury; epidemiology
    LG - English.
    DT - Research Articles.
    SB - Clinical Medicine, Public Health.
    IS - 0271-3586
    DI - 10.1002/ajim.22459
    XL - http://ovidsp.ovid.com/ovidweb.cgi?T=JS&CSC=Y&NEWS=N&PAGE=fulltext&D=ovftq&AN=01445365-201506000-00011


    RIS


    6.
    TY - JOUR
    ID - 01445365-201506000-00011
    T1 - "Injury, Illness, and Work Restriction in Merchant Seafarers".
    A1 - Lefkowitz, Rafael
    A1 - MD, MPH
    A1 - Slade, Martin
    A1 - Redlich, Carrie
    A1 - MD, MPH
    Y1 - 2015//
    N2 - Background: Research on seafarer medical conditions at sea is limited. This study describes the frequency and distribution of seafarer injury and illness at sea, and explores potential risk factors for resultant lost work., Materials and Methods: The study analyzed a telemedicine database of 3,921 seafarer medical cases between 2008 and 2011 using descriptive statistics and logistic regression., Results: There were over twice as many illness cases (n = 2,764, 70.5%) as injury (n = 1,157, 29.5%) cases. Disability was more often secondary to illness (n = 646, 54.3%), predominantly from gastrointestinal, dermatologic, and respiratory conditions. Logistic regression revealed age, rank, and worksite as potential risk factors for lost work., Conclusions: This study emphasizes illness as a significant problem occurring in seafarers at sea. Future research should further elucidate risk factors for illness, as well as injury, to inform preventive measures and reduce seafarer disability. Am. J. Ind. Med. 58:688-696, 2015. (C) 2015 Wiley Periodicals, Inc., (C) 2015 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd
    KW - seafarers
    KW - disability
    KW - telemedicine
    KW - occupational injury
    KW - epidemiology
    JA - Am. j. ind. med.
    VL - 58
    IS - 6
    SP - 688
    EP - 696
    CY - (C) 2015 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd
    PB - (1)Yale Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Yale School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut
    SN - 0271-3586
    DO - 10.1002/ajim.22459
    L2 - http://ovidsp.ovid.com/ovidweb.cgi?T=JS&PAGE=reference&D=ovftq&NEWS=N&AN=01445365-201506000-00011
    ER -



    BRS


    <6>
    AN 01445365-201506000-00011.
    AU Lefkowitz, Rafael Y. MD, MPH 1; Slade, Martin D. MPH 1; Redlich, Carrie A. MD, MPH 1
    IN (1)Yale Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Yale School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut
    TI "Injury, Illness, and Work Restriction in Merchant Seafarers".
    SO American Journal Of Industrial Medicine. 58(6):688-696, June 2015.
    AB Background: Research on seafarer medical conditions at sea is limited. This study describes the frequency and distribution of seafarer injury and illness at sea, and explores potential risk factors for resultant lost work.

    Materials and Methods: The study analyzed a telemedicine database of 3,921 seafarer medical cases between 2008 and 2011 using descriptive statistics and logistic regression.

    Results: There were over twice as many illness cases (n = 2,764, 70.5%) as injury (n = 1,157, 29.5%) cases. Disability was more often secondary to illness (n = 646, 54.3%), predominantly from gastrointestinal, dermatologic, and respiratory conditions. Logistic regression revealed age, rank, and worksite as potential risk factors for lost work.

    Conclusions: This study emphasizes illness as a significant problem occurring in seafarers at sea. Future research should further elucidate risk factors for illness, as well as injury, to inform preventive measures and reduce seafarer disability. Am. J. Ind. Med. 58:688-696, 2015. (C) 2015 Wiley Periodicals, Inc.

    (C) 2015 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd
    KW seafarers; disability; telemedicine; occupational injury; epidemiology
    LG English.
    SB Clinical Medicine. Public Health.
    DT Research Articles.
    IS 0271-3586
    DI 10.1002/ajim.22459
    XL http://ovidsp.ovid.com/ovidweb.cgi?T=JS&CSC=Y&NEWS=N&PAGE=fulltext&D=ovftq&AN=01445365-201506000-00011


    Reference Manager

    <6. >
    VN - Ovid Technologies
    DB - Journals@Ovid
    AN - 01445365-201506000-00011.
    AU - Lefkowitz, Rafael Y. MD, MPH 1
    AU - Slade, Martin D. MPH 1
    AU - Redlich, Carrie A. MD, MPH 1
    IN - (1)Yale Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Yale School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut
    TI - "Injury, Illness, and Work Restriction in Merchant Seafarers". [Article]
    SO - American Journal Of Industrial Medicine June 2015;58(6):688-696
    AB - Background: Research on seafarer medical conditions at sea is limited. This study describes the frequency and distribution of seafarer injury and illness at sea, and explores potential risk factors for resultant lost work., Materials and Methods: The study analyzed a telemedicine database of 3,921 seafarer medical cases between 2008 and 2011 using descriptive statistics and logistic regression., Results: There were over twice as many illness cases (n = 2,764, 70.5%) as injury (n = 1,157, 29.5%) cases. Disability was more often secondary to illness (n = 646, 54.3%), predominantly from gastrointestinal, dermatologic, and respiratory conditions. Logistic regression revealed age, rank, and worksite as potential risk factors for lost work., Conclusions: This study emphasizes illness as a significant problem occurring in seafarers at sea. Future research should further elucidate risk factors for illness, as well as injury, to inform preventive measures and reduce seafarer disability. Am. J. Ind. Med. 58:688-696, 2015. (C) 2015 Wiley Periodicals, Inc., (C) 2015 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd
    KW - seafarers; disability; telemedicine; occupational injury; epidemiology
    LG - English.
    DT - Research Articles.
    SB - Clinical Medicine, Public Health.
    IS - 0271-3586
    DI - 10.1002/ajim.22459





    Only other export choices choices are XML, Excel, Text, and Citavi

    Hope this helps
  • OVID XML



    XML

    <code>
    <?xml version="1.0" standalone="yes" ?>
    <!-- <!DOCTYPE ovidresults SYSTEM "http://www.ovid.com.libproxy.sdsu.edu/dtds/ovidxmloutput.dtd">; -->
    <ovidresults>
    <records>
    <record index="6. ">
    <F C='m_dbsn' L='Database Code'><T><BR/></T><D type='c'>ovftq</D></F><F C='an' L='Accession Number'><T><BR /></T><D type='c'>01445365-201506000-00011<T>.<BR /></T></D></F>
    <F C='au' L='Author'><T><BR /></T><D type='s'>Lefkowitz, Rafael Y. MD, MPH 1</D><T>; </T><D type='s'>Slade, Martin D. MPH 1</D><T>; </T><D type='s'>Redlich, Carrie A. MD, MPH 1</D><T><BR /></T></F>
    <F C='in' L='Institution'><T><BR /></T><D type='c'>(1)Yale Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Yale School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut<T><BR /></T></D></F>
    <F C='ti' L='Title'><T><BR /></T><D type='c'>&#34;Injury, Illness, and Work Restriction in Merchant Seafarers&#34;.<T>[</T>Article<T>]<BR /></T></D></F>
    <F C='so' L='Source'><T><BR /></T><D type='c'>American Journal Of Industrial Medicine<T>. </T>58<T>(</T>6<T>):</T>688-696<T>, </T>June 2015<T>.<BR /></T></D></F>
    <F C='ab' L='Abstract'><T><BR /></T><D type='s'>Background: Research on seafarer medical conditions at sea is limited. This study describes the frequency and distribution of seafarer injury and illness at sea, and explores potential risk factors for resultant lost work.</D><T><BR /><BR /></T><D type='s'>Materials and Methods: The study analyzed a telemedicine database of 3,921 seafarer medical cases between 2008 and 2011 using descriptive statistics and logistic regression.</D><T><BR /><BR /></T><D type='s'>Results: There were over twice as many illness cases (n = 2,764, 70.5%) as injury (n = 1,157, 29.5%) cases. Disability was more often secondary to illness (n = 646, 54.3%), predominantly from gastrointestinal, dermatologic, and respiratory conditions. Logistic regression revealed age, rank, and worksite as potential risk factors for lost work.</D><T><BR /><BR /></T><D type='s'>Conclusions: This study emphasizes illness as a significant problem occurring in seafarers at sea. Future research should further elucidate risk factors for illness, as well as injury, to inform preventive measures and reduce seafarer disability. Am. J. Ind. Med. 58:688-696, 2015. (C) 2015 Wiley Periodicals, Inc.</D><T><BR /><BR /></T><D type='s'>(C) 2015 John Wiley &#38; Sons, Ltd</D><T><BR /></T></F>
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    <F C='lg' L='Language'><T><BR /></T><D type='c'>English<T>.<BR /></T></D></F>
    <F C='dt' L='Document Type'><T><BR /></T><D type='c'>Research Articles<T>.<BR /></T></D></F>
    <F C='sb' L='Journal Subset'><T><BR /></T><D type='s'>Clinical Medicine</D><T>. </T><D type='s'>Public Health</D><T>.<BR /></T></F>
    <F C='is' L='ISSN'><T><BR /></T><D type='c'>0271-3586<T><BR /></T></D></F>
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    </ovidresults>



  • edited February 3, 2021
    Screen shot of Zotero import of this article.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ctoin7esy60tyh/Screen Shot 2021-02-02 at 16.39.27.png?dl=0

    Maybe the authors' "MD" credential might help determine the translator source.

    When saved from OVID to Zotero using DOI:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/yx108adz7br71l3/Screen Shot 2021-02-02 at 16.50.18.png?dl=0
  • edited February 3, 2021
    Zotero import of an article from "Journal of occupational and environmental medicine" where journal is imported "Journal of Occupational":

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/d1p7yhegplttwur/Screen Shot 2021-02-02 at 17.00.36.png?dl=0

    See my first comment in this thread. "ampersand" versus "and".

  • Thanks -- I'll take a look. We use the Endnote/Reference Manager option. The RIS is just too poor quality, alas.
  • Did this get resolved? Neither Save to Zotero nor Export-Endnote are giving me complete references. Thanks.
  • I'm so sorry that this issue has stuck around for so long! Just pushed a fix. The problem was overzealous cleaning: we were stripping everything before "Journal" in journal titles that contain that word, so it wasn't specifically targeting country names, but they happened to be the most common affected case. The ampersand issue should also be fixed now.

    Your Zotero translators should auto-update within 5 minutes, or you can update manually by clicking Update now in the Advanced pane of the Zotero preferences. Please let me know if everything works as expected.
  • Hi Abe,

    Thanks so much. It is working much better.

    There are still a few things that I notice that are missing, though.

    The most important is that the ISO Journal Abbreviation field is not coming through from MEDLINE. This is important because the abbreviated title, rather than the full title is used in references in the style most commonly used in medicine, ICMJE style.

    Did the Medical Subject Headings (MeSH) ever come through from MEDLINE to Zotero? It would be useful to see that info there.

    Finally, the first part of the title is no longer being cut off, but I did notice that the part of the title after the colon (e.g., "The Official Journal of the European Society for Vascular Surgery" in "European Journal of Vascular and Endovascular Surgery: The Official Journal of the European Society for Vascular Surgery") isn't coming through, though it does come through from PubMed. Not sure this will ever be important, though.

    Thank you!

    Erin
  • It doesn't look like Ovid gives us journal abbreviations in the metadata format that we use, but Zotero doesn't normally need them - ISO journal abbreviations are generated automatically when the style you're using prefers them. Are you getting incorrectly unabbreviated journal titles in your bibliography?

    We don't get subject headings in the metadata, unfortunately. There might be a way to scrape them from the site - I'll take a look.

    Colon issue should be easy to fix. I'll get on that.
  • Yes, I tried creating a bibliography in Word just now (using Vancouver style) and none of the titles of articles (all of which came from Ovid MEDLINE) were abbreviated. Thanks for looking at the other issues.

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