Upgrade StorageChicago style numbering problems
I apologize if this has already been discussed on the forum, but my search did not produce an answer. I'm preparing an article for a journal that uses Chicago 16.
Prior to this, I installed 3 versions of 17. Author-date, full note, and note. Today, I installed 16 note but I have also tried the alternate versions of 17.
Problem 1 of 3: in-text citations
The in-text citations should be numbered. The note version of 16 appears to solve this problem but not the 2 remaining problems.
Problem 2 of 3: bibliography at end of article
The bibliography should be numbered but isn't using 16 note. There are footnotes (which I don't need) in numbered order. There is an option for switching to endnotes, but this changes my footnotes to roman numerals.
Problem 3 of 3: citing an article more than once
Maybe this is just my unfamiliarity with the style. I expect the bibliography to list every article once. If I cite article 1 multiple times, I expect my in-text citations to use the number 1 every time. Currently, additional citations get a new number.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Prior to this, I installed 3 versions of 17. Author-date, full note, and note. Today, I installed 16 note but I have also tried the alternate versions of 17.
Problem 1 of 3: in-text citations
The in-text citations should be numbered. The note version of 16 appears to solve this problem but not the 2 remaining problems.
Problem 2 of 3: bibliography at end of article
The bibliography should be numbered but isn't using 16 note. There are footnotes (which I don't need) in numbered order. There is an option for switching to endnotes, but this changes my footnotes to roman numerals.
Problem 3 of 3: citing an article more than once
Maybe this is just my unfamiliarity with the style. I expect the bibliography to list every article once. If I cite article 1 multiple times, I expect my in-text citations to use the number 1 every time. Currently, additional citations get a new number.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
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But if you are talking about Chicago,
1. The note/full note styles use footnotes or endnotes which are numbered. author-date citations are never numbered.
2. You can switch endnotes from roman to arabic numbers in Word's footnote settings (easy to google if you can't figure it out -- it's completely independent of Zotero)
3. Note styles like Chicago do indeed have a new, sequential number for every note/citation. There are other styles (e.g. Vancouver, IEEE, or Nature) that work the way you describe with a numeric bibliography.
When you use a note/endnote style with Zotero and click add/edit citation all Zotero does is tell Word "Please insert a footnote for me here, please". So the numbers are generated via Word.
Problem 2:
Now that you know that the numbers are dealth with by Word you could change the Word style (different to citation style) accordingly to reflect what you need.
Problem 3:
Endnotes are like footnotes, but just bunches them all together at the end, hence its name. So if you want to make a reference to the same number you can use Word's own cross-referencing function.
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You might actually want to look at numeric styles if you're not adding a bunch of information to your notes. In numeric styles like IEEE or Nature the numbers are indeed then generated by Zotero. Hope this helps. :)
The possibility that the journal (College & Research Libraries) was not using a true Chicago style had occurred to me and I think that's the case.
Short-term, I'm going to use IEEE so that I can write the article.
Once the article is done (hopefully by the end of the month, but who knows?), I'll re-read these messages and try to solve the long-term issue. I'm not certain how the journal treats multiple citations to the same article. Because the bibliography is numbered, I predict that C&RL works like IEEE. But maybe not.
I'll post the end result when I get there.
Both your comments allow me to free my mind to think about the article itself. Thanks again!
https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=id:chicago-fullnote-bibliography-with-ibid
https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=id:college-and-research-libraries