Same author, same year, different publications
Hi colleagues, I am a newbie, working on my thesis. Citation style I am using is Harvard-University of Westminster. I have been struggling with Zotero for a few weeks, although I feel that this is the best tool available for citation management.
I am citing different publications from the same author published in the same year. How do I ensure that the suffix of a/b/c appears (for in-text citation)? I don't think it is a good idea to edit manually, as it would prevent the document from automatically updating changes, once I manually edit the in-tent citations.
I am on the newest word, running the newest Zotero, on Mac.
Many thanks
I am citing different publications from the same author published in the same year. How do I ensure that the suffix of a/b/c appears (for in-text citation)? I don't think it is a good idea to edit manually, as it would prevent the document from automatically updating changes, once I manually edit the in-tent citations.
I am on the newest word, running the newest Zotero, on Mac.
Many thanks
The citations disambiguation is done by the citation style.
I just tested this out and the style has the right setting and does this correctly.
Test Citation:
(Accadia et al., 2012b, pP03012)
(Accadia et al., 2012a, pP03012)
Can you make sure you have the style correctly selected under "Document Preferences"?
Also, try this in a fresh new document with just the two citations that should disambiguate.
(That it prints out the page for any citation looks like an error, and I'll look into it)
1. Yes, one of the main caveats of the available University of Westminster-Harvard CSL is that it automatically generates the page range for in text citation, which is not needed.
2. The other issue is the usage of ; instead of comma to separate two publications for the in-text citation. How can I change it?
3. When there are two or three cited publications within one in-text citation, it should be ordered by year, in ascending order. Only when two items are published within the same year, then the order would be alphabetical.
4. When a cited paragraph is cut (in the layout), with the 1st part on p30 and the 2nd part on p40, I am told it should be cited through in-text citation as (XXX, 1999, p30, p40). How do I edit this into the CSL?
I realise these are all minor edits. Hence, that was why I did the edits directly into the generated citations. I guess this is the wrong approach, as it would prevent the edited in text citations to be updated later. Is that right?
You now mentioned errors in the style, but actually nothing regarding your initial problem. Let's figure that out on your side and I´ll take care of the actual style.
(you can edit posts here by hovering over the post and a little gear wheel appears on the right).
1. For the first issue, same author, same year, two publications, I have tried multiple times (in the past, even using new word document), to no productive outcome. I am desperate enough to try to use another Harvard style somewhat similar to my university but that is not a good solution, I guess.
In the original CSL, the default would be (Smith, 1999, p22-30), indicating the full page range. If I key in a specific page, it would produce (Smith, 1999, p22-30: 23). Rightfully, as I am told, it should be (Smith, 1999, p23). In truth, if it is obvious enough, the page range needs not be indicated.
You'll have your Westminster style shortly, wait for it.
In the meantime, my initial questions are still open that should help us troubleshoot this. ;)
1. Can you make sure you have the style correctly selected under "Document Preferences"?
2. Also, try this in a fresh new document with just the two citations that should disambiguate.
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Where do you see that in the guidelines? I can't find anything.
For instance, the person whom I corresponded suggested not using pp. for page range, suggesting instead, p2-5.
With the stated issue of ordering, that was what I was told in private email consultation with the librarian.
Referring to this: https://libguides.westminster.ac.uk/c.php?g=666541&p=4733712
and this: https://www.westminster.ac.uk/sites/default/public-files/general-documents/Referencing Your Work booklet_06.1.pdf
Using "p2-5" is correct as per their guidelines. So we'll stick with that.
https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/raw/f11dbe4f5f8cc2cf000235f1fca73fe7fdc45a3b/harvard-university-of-westminster.csl
Screen capture for your reference. I note that for multiple publications from the same author cited within one in-text citation, you use comma rather than ; to separate the entries. Is that right?
Many thanks again
(Accadia et al., 2012b, pP03012)
(Accadia et al., 2012a, pP03012)
Accadia, T. et al. (2012a). Copy: Virgo: a laser interferometer to detect gravitational waves. Journal of Instrumentation, 7 (03), P03012.
Accadia, T. et al. (2012b). Virgo: a laser interferometer to detect gravitational waves. Journal of Instrumentation, 7 (03), P03012.
Again, where in the guidelines do you see that it should be a ";" and not ","?
(Please edit your posts and don't make double posts)
As for the issue of (Albano, 1981b, 1981a), I am not sure I understand your point regarding the bibliography. I have not generated any bibliography yet, except to key in the entries on my Zotero library. Are you saying that this (Albano, 1981b, 1981a) is perfectly fine?
Let me offer you a screen shot of my Zotero library, especially the part concerning the entries for Albano.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I-6zsnq-cb99H9evnAqEkRpsicf9g4U1/view?usp=sharing
Guidelines just say they need to be disambiguated.
No further information is given how the bibliography should be sorted in terms of citations from the same authors (which would be the settings that would change it from b>a to a>b).
The recommended in-text citation would be (Loh, Koh and Thomson, 2013, p1–21).
See: https://libguides.westminster.ac.uk/referencing/examples