citations from collected works
Hey! So:
1) i have to cite 15 volumes of Collected Works of XYZ
2) The items within each volume are texts from books/booklets/articles/speeches by Historical Subject A
3) i initially put only Collected works of XYZ as one item, and then manually put details for each item: for e.g. 'Person A's speech at London, the Daily Mail, 29 April 2016', i would enter the Volume No. and Page numbers manually too. But this required too much manual work. and i thought it was taking up too much space
4) I have currently selected the 'book section' format in zotero, and am putting each item from each volume into zotero. So that this part --- 'Person A's speech at London, the Daily Mail, 29 April 2016' comes under 'title'. i then add something like 'speech at london' under 'short title'. so that this saves me precious space
5) BUT - the problem im facing is that: although 'speech at london' helps in appearing as a short title for 'Person A's speech at London, the Daily Mail, 29 April 2016', Zotero isnt picking up CWXYZ (which is short title for 'Collected works of XYZ' -which ive got in Zotero separately as a 'book'. this whole thing - Collected works of XYZ is still appearing in full, how can i get a shorter title for this as well?).
I hope this makes sense!
1) i have to cite 15 volumes of Collected Works of XYZ
2) The items within each volume are texts from books/booklets/articles/speeches by Historical Subject A
3) i initially put only Collected works of XYZ as one item, and then manually put details for each item: for e.g. 'Person A's speech at London, the Daily Mail, 29 April 2016', i would enter the Volume No. and Page numbers manually too. But this required too much manual work. and i thought it was taking up too much space
4) I have currently selected the 'book section' format in zotero, and am putting each item from each volume into zotero. So that this part --- 'Person A's speech at London, the Daily Mail, 29 April 2016' comes under 'title'. i then add something like 'speech at london' under 'short title'. so that this saves me precious space
5) BUT - the problem im facing is that: although 'speech at london' helps in appearing as a short title for 'Person A's speech at London, the Daily Mail, 29 April 2016', Zotero isnt picking up CWXYZ (which is short title for 'Collected works of XYZ' -which ive got in Zotero separately as a 'book'. this whole thing - Collected works of XYZ is still appearing in full, how can i get a shorter title for this as well?).
I hope this makes sense!
edit: oh, and which citation style you're using.
im using The Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, volumes 1-15
examples of individual items are the following:
'Swami Dayanand', Lahore, 1898, Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, Vol 1, pp-24-6
'Swami Dayanand', Lahore, 1898, Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, Vol 1, pp-34-6 (sometimes the same item in the same volume repeats itself)
'Shivaji', Lahore, 1900, Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, Vol 1, pp-34-6
(sometimes it doesnt)
'Swami Dayanand', Lahore, 1898, Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, Vol 1, pp-34-6
(sometimes it comes again after another item from the same volume)
Then, in another chapter, I have items from the same series but a different volume. for example:
'Message of the Gita', Modern Review, 19 July 1908, Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, Volume 3, pp. 99-100
'Message of the Gita', Modern Review, 19 July 1908, Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, Volume 3, pp. 119-20
'Message of the Gita', Modern Review, 19 July 1908, Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, Volume 3, pp. 119-20 (sometimes same item from same volume repeats itself )
'State of Depressed Classes', Interview to the Tribune, 18 May 1914, Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, Volume 4, pp. 119-20 (sometimes its followed by another item from another volume in same series)
'Untouchability', The Panjabee, 5 May 1915, Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, Volume 4, pp. 5-6 (now, theres a new volume, but from the same series)
I hope this makes sense!
So id ideally like to do something thats most economical!
Like the full thing only once, and the rest:
'ibid' & if after another item then 'Swami Dayanand', CWLLR Vol 1'?
I'd ideally want to have Zotero shorten Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai to CWLLR and for it to pick up when im citing different items from the same volume! so after the first time it doesnt repeat:
'Swami Dayanand', Lahore, 1898, Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, Vol 1, pp-24-6
'Shivaji', Lahore, 1900, Collected Works of Lala Lajpat Rai, Vol 1, pp-34-6
and just has:
'Swami Dayanand', CWLLR Vol 1, p24-6
'Shivaji', ibid., p.34-6
If that makes sense? sorry, but i myself find this a bit confusing!!
1) Modify the citation style and
2) add
container-title-short: CWLLR
into the Extra field (note this alone won't do anything without modifying the citation styles.)Let me know if you're interested and I can tell you what to do in the citation style, but it's a bit technical.
There used to be a plugin that can handle this ("Abbreviations Filter") but it's not currently compatible with Zotero 5.
"for it to pick up when im citing different items from the same volume"
is not possible and is unlikely to be any time soon.
You obviously do get the short title (and the short title only) the 2nd time you cite the _same_ work, but Zotero has no way of knowing that you cited from the same multivolume work before, so there's no way it can abbreviate that, I'm afraid.
CWLLR 1
CWLLR 2
CWLLR 3 etc
So it'll always appear as
'Swami Dayanand', CWLLR 1, p19
'History of India', CWLLR 1, p80
'Message of the Gita', CWLLR 3, p100-1
'Gita', p100-1
http://juris-m.github.io
zotero.org
. It uses a separate database, your local Zotero data will not be affected. To lighten the sync, you might want to set attachments to sync "as needed."Signing of the client will happen eventually, but not for a few more months.
If your Zotero library is not synced, that will be the place to start. Close Juris-M, open Zotero, and then read about how to set up syncing, starting from here.
There are some guidance notes on using the Abbrevs Filter here:
https://our.law.nagoya-u.ac.jp/alumni/juris-m-using-the-abbrevs-filter/