SER stands for serial (though I guess ProCite uses it for manuscript). Zotero doesn't have a way to represent a serial publication in and of its, so I think book is a decent mapping. What is the Workform for these records in ProCite?

Manuscript is the workform in ProCite. A lot of times it refers to an unpublished manuscript of some kind, or in some instances a report or a document published online (like a paper in pdf format). The most common use is for unpublished manuscripts that might have been given to the person for review.

For Manuscripts, it is also important to preserve the availability field, as sometimes manuscripts refer to papers or collections in archives. Or they might just be hard to find, and need that field to help the user locate them, since they were not published in a normal way.

Should I change SER to something else in the RIS-Endnote file?

"As I mentioned previously, there is some functionality missing in Zotero with reports. There is no "Editor" only "Series Editor", which makes the "creator" field in the list view look blank, because series editor is not listed there.

Therefore this isn't so much an error, as something that doesn't fit... but Author Role is not mapping correctly. Presumably because there is no editor, only series editor. I do think that this is something Zotero overall should change though, if possible. What do you think? Otherwise, at worst, the Author role field should be copied to notes in this case to let the user know that these authors are really editors.."

I'm not an expert on reports, but perhaps there's a good reason there is no editor. I would post this in a new thread and someone with better knowledge of how this is handled will hopefully answer you.

I tried that but haven't had a response. http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/22740/in-report-a-series-editor-not-displayed-in-creator-field-in-list-view/#Item_1
In the meantime, what would be the better stop-gap measure?

I do think that reports will have normal editors fairly frequently. Not all reports are made in series, i.e. a one time archaeological site report for a specific dig.

"Conference Proceedings seems to have some serious problems mapping"
"Are you referring here to the same problems as above?"

"I think the consensus right now is that date and place represent publication information. See http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/22911/conference-paper-date-and-place/#Comment_122944 I will make sure that these fields are placed in the notes."

Yes basically, place of meeting not mapping etc. Thanks for making sure they go in notes. Adam said in the other thread that those changes are "covered in the list of field changes/updates for the next Zotero version." So we can assume this will be available as a feature sooner or later?

"It looks like these kinds of "book long form" entries would be better off being imported as chapters? Should I actually change CHAP to BOOK?

is there anything to help us get around which are actually books vs. which are chapters/articles within books within series?"

I'm going to try and make the translator figure out if book or chapter is more appropriate. Don't hold your breath though. The problem is that I need to make sure this doesn't break anything with regular RIS files that have not been exported from ProCite.

So where did we land on this issue? Should I change the BOOK back to CHAP? Or wait for an update?

Thanks for all of your help.

I am trying to get a semi-clean version together so we can start using it asap. :)

Should I change SER to something else in the RIS-Endnote file?

RIS specification defines "TY - MANSCPT" for manuscripts. You may change that in the output style.

I tried that but haven't had a response. http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/22740/in-report-a-series-editor-not-displayed-in-creator-field-in-list-view/#Item_1
In the meantime, what would be the better stop-gap measure?

I do think that reports will have normal editors fairly frequently. Not all reports are made in series, i.e. a one time archaeological site report for a specific dig.

I don't think your post coneys the message I was getting at. I replied to your post in that thread, but what I was suggesting you post about is adding an Editor role to report in addition to Series Editor.

I'm not sure it will solve your problem, however.

Yes basically, place of meeting not mapping etc. Thanks for making sure they go in notes. Adam said in the other thread that those changes are "covered in the list of field changes/updates for the next Zotero version." So we can assume this will be available as a feature sooner or later?

Yes

So where did we land on this issue? Should I change the BOOK back to CHAP? Or wait for an update?

In retrospect, one should use a single workform for a single item type (contrary to ProCite's frequent indications otherwise). But now that the work is done and you have two types of items cited as "Book Long Form", I don't think changing the style is a good idea for you, since you will be mistyping one or the other.

You could change the workform for either chapters or books to a more appropriate type and re-export.

I will be able to fiddle around with the code later today, so perhaps you may want to wait for an update.

Issue ID is uncommon in Book Section/Chapter type, but it does appear in Procite. While there is no field for issue in Book Section in Zotero, could you please preserve this field in the notes section?

I would also suggest it as a change in general for Zotero in the future..

example record:

TY - CHAP
N1 - 15453
A1 - Bruun, Ole
A1 - Narangoa, Li
T2 - A New Moment in Mongol History: The Rise of the Cosmopolitan City
N1 - Connective Phrase: in
A2 - Bruun, Ole
A2 - Narangoa, Li
N1 - Author Role: eds.
T2 - Mongols: From Country to City Floating Boundaries, Pastoralism and
City Life in the Mongol Lands
RP - In File
PB - NIAS press
PY - 2006
N1 - Issue ID: 34
N1 - Series Title: Studies in Asian Topics
N2 - The radical changes in the general circumstances of life and the shift from
a rural to a~ urban orientation in a nation of previously, and still partly,
pastoral people in Central Asia make up the theme of this book. From
mainly historical and anthropological perspectives it examines the complex relationship
between rural and urban Mongol people, settlements and identities,
generated over the last century.
Few other nations have experienced changes as rapid and radical as the Mongols:
from littLesedentary life in 1900 to cosmopolitan city life in the 2000s; from
scattered settlements to intense urbanization and demographic concentration;
from nomadic pastoralism to Chinese and Soviet plan economics to market
liberalism; from Buddhist monastic learning to modern education; and from
imperial domination to separate autonomous and independent polities. During
the same period Mongols experienced a series of political revolutions: the overthrow
of Manchu rule in 1911, the Communist revolution of 1921 in Outer
Mongolia, the Communist revolution of 1949 in Inner Mongolia, the Chinese
Cultural Revolution of 1966, the Chinese shift to market socialism, the break-up
of the Soviet Union and the political shift to democracy and private ownership
at the establishment of the Mongolian republic in 1990.
Even so, the short intervals between revolutions apparently brought more
significant changes than the revolutions themselves. The anti-Buddhist purges
of the 1930s and the collectivization drives of the 1950s to 1970s both changed
the texture of society, while the shifting international alliances in the same period
dramatically changed the political power balance in the region. Above all, living
spaces, material circumstances of lifeand social structures have been revolutionized
within the span of a few generations. The entire Mongol lands have seen exceptional
changes within a single century, demanding creative cultural and political responses
as well as new economic strategies on the part of its inhabitants.
KW - Mongolia
KW - pastoralism
KW - political organization
ER -

also for Book Section/ Chapter

Author Monographic (7): in procite is going in as contributor in book section in zotero, when it should be "Book Author"

Here is the Procite view: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19141190/error_booksec_authormono_inzotas_contrib.png

It looks like the output is not very clear, compared to the clear designation that she is the book author in procite..:

TY - CHAP
N1 - 20093
A1 - Lawson, Barbara
T2 - Artifact Collecting and Anthropology
N1 - Connective Phrase: In
A2 - Lawson, Barbara
T2 - Collected Curios: Missionary Tales from the South Seas
CY - Montreal
PB - McGill University
PY - 1994
SP - 1-20
KW - material change
KW - museum studies
ER -

I am testing the last few workforms right now, but here is what I have as an error log. It is complete for the past few days as far as I can tell, though I didn't go back and look at all the posts.

Hope this helps. I uploaded the document, since it was formatted, and pasting it here made it not easy to read.

Summary Bug Log by Workform:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19141190/Summary Bug Log by Workform April 17.doc

Sorry for the delay. This was actually a bit more tricky than I expected.

The updated translator is at https://raw.github.com/aurimasv/translators/RIS-maevepotter/RIS-ProCite.js

Note that this is now a separate translator from the main RIS translator, so make sure to save that file as "RIS-ProCite.js" It will work along-side the original RIS translator and updates will not overwrite it.

That particular file is sort of a custom version for you, which preserves Record ID and Record Number. Those fields would be dropped in the public translator.

So I think I addressed most of the concerns above except for a few:

There's no reliable way to figure out if the record is supposed to be a book or a chapter if it is marked as CHAP. If you can figure out some algorithm let me know. The biggest problem is that sometimes T2 is actually meant as T1 and so on. Basically, you will have to figure out which one is which manually before importing.

AV is not stored in Archive, but it is not dropped now either.

There is no field in Zotero for Series Issue ID as you point out, so this is not handled. Stored in notes.

Some highlights of the improvements:

Fields are not dropped, but are stored in notes instead. Items that have these automatic notes attached are now marked with a tag that informs the user to enter this data manually.

Creator roles should now be handled better.

Some date handling improvements.

yeah, something might have broken the editor mapping, because when I re-imported some files after the new Procite.js above, some books also failed to have author map to editor, when the author role stated editor or editors. It did work with the same data with only the previous RIS file.

Edit: however, it looks like the editor mapping never worked for the "Manuscript" type, so that part may just be missing the necessary coding.

Edit 2: "Report" type also does not map author role: editors into editors on the drop down author tab in Zotero. This happened both pre and post update, so I think it was never there. Thanks!

Manuscript doesn't have an editor type. The choices are author, contributor, translator. This will likely be addressed in the new Zotero release.

Ah yes sorry... so hard to keep which fields have what straight. Sorry about that.

Same here, though with "report" you have an option of series editor as talked about above.

My thought on this is to map editors to contributors in both cases and add a note about the proper title. Possibly set a tag that says there's something missing. How does that sound?

That would probably work if that will help other people. For now, I just went ahead and fixed the reports manually to try and make that role clear, so you can add or not at your discretion. Luckily we only had about 100 or so of those. They were still dropping series titles completely, like the record below:

TY - RPRT
N1 - Record Number: 1073
A1 - Hurt, Wesley R. Jr.
T1 - Report of the Investigation of the Spotted Bear Site, 39HU26, and the Cottonwood Site, 39HU43, Hughes County, South Dakota, 1953
CY - Pierre
PB - South Dakota Archaeological Commission
PY - 1954
T3 - Archaeological Studies Circular (was lost)
N1 - Series Volume ID: 6 (went into notes)
N1 - Notes: have, seen
KW - Plains
KW - Arikara archaeology
ER -

some books also failed to have author map to editor, when the author role stated editor or editors.

Could you provide an example?

It was an oddball one, in ProCite as Monograph:

TY - SER
N1 - Record Number: 16113
A1 - Behnke, R.
A1 - Scoones, I.
A1 - Kerven, C.
N1 - Author Role: editors
T1 - Range Ecology at Disequilibrium
CY - London
PB - ODI, IIED and Commonwealth Secretariat
PY - 1993
N1 - Notes: cited in Sneath 2001
Notes the importance of mobility and flexibility for East African pastoral systems.
KW - rangeland
KW - ecology
KW - Africa
KW - pastoralism
ER -

There were not too many of these either so I fixed them manually.

The workforms I am still working on are:

Book Chapters
Book Long Form
Book Short Form
Manuscripts
Conference Proceedings: Was the "Date of Meeting" and "Date of Publication" added to notes in the update?

Problems with Conference Paper type:

a. proceeding title does not map. goes into notes.


TY - CONF
N1 - Record Number: 330
A1 - Allard, Francis
T1 - Investigating the Bronze Age of Khanuy Valley, Central Mongolia
N1 - Connective Phrase: In
A2 - Hanks, Bryan
A2 - Linduff, Kathy
N1 - Proceedings Title: New Research Directions in Eurasian Steppe Archaeology: The Emergence of Complex Societies in the Third to First Millennia BCE
Y2 - 2006/02/10-2006/02/10
N1 - Place of Meeting: University of Pittsburgh
CY - Pittsburgh
PB - Department of Anthropology & Center for Russian and East European Studies
PY - 2006
N1 - Notes: have, seen
Allard 2006

1. Herders in the Khanuy valley move their camps 2 to 4 times per year. 1
2. A few families cultivate vegetables on small plots. 1
3. Herders in the valley move camp 2 to 4 times per year, “with maximum movements not exceeding 10 km. 6
4. Russian ethnographer A.D. Simukov identified a mobility pattern he called “Hangai”. Considering the productivity of the region camps did not move far in response to drought. 6
5. Simukov “estimated the diameter of the annual movement cycle to be no more than 7-8 km.” 6
6. “Nomadic pastoralism is politically centrifugal, militating against central and hierarchical power… Nomadic mobility, in consequence, has a dampening effect on hierarchy and centralization and on chiefly coercion and oppression…. Chiefships arise in nomadic tribes in confrontation with powerful external populations (Irons 1979). Thus, acephalous, egalitarian, decentralized, nomadic tribes are more likely to be found in remote regions far from centers of power, population, and trade, and nomadic tribal chiefdoms are more likely to be found in proximity to agricultural settlements, cities, state agencies, and major markets” (2004).” 7 [we need to deal with this perspective within the household model]

KW - Mongolia
KW - pastoralism
ER -

Yes, same link as above right? Want me to try one more time?

Ok will do first thing tomorrow.. out for the night. Have a good evening, Aurimas!

One suggestion "Document Type (35):" in ProCite's "Manuscript" workform, should map to the "Type" field in Zotero. It currently only goes to notes.

example:

TY - MANSCPT
N1 - Record Number: 2837
A1 - Bogan, Michael A.
T1 - Spiro Textile Analysis
PY - 1977
N1 - Document Type: Unpublished report
AV - On file, Department of Anthropology, National Museum of Natural History, Washington, D.C.
N2 - Report on analysis of Spiro textiles in the NMNH collection
KW - Spiro
KW - Oklahoma
KW - technology
ER -

Fixed it. It now goes into notes as "Series Title: ...."

Hello again, back from a little break. Hope you've been doing well. I found a bit of an error:

It seems that workform "Book Short Form" is not importing multiple authors correctly.

See screenshot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19141190/error with multauthors slashes.png

The // between names are not being registered as separating the authors. Perhaps because there are no spaces? Because it will only do the first authors "name//nextauthorslastname" and then nothing else because of the comma after the second authors name. So those names after the second authors last name are being lost completely. This is true across all multiple author records I have looked at so far. I am using the new ProCite.js file from above.

here is the examples RIS test:

TY - BOOK
N1 - Record ID: 2753
A1 - Bloomer, Kent//Moore, Charles
T1 - Body, Memory, and Architecture
CY - New Haven
PB - Yale University Press
PY - 1977
KW - spatial analysis
ER -

Try searching for Workform = "Book Long Form" AND #4 = EMPTY I think books don't have "Title, Analytic"

Workform = "Book Long Form" AND #4 = NOT EMPTY should return all journal articles.