Incorrect margins when dragging reference to Word 2007 from Zotero 1.0
If I open a brand new Word 2007 document, with the current style set to the default of "Normal", and with one inch margins on top, bottom and both sides, any reference I drag from Zotero 1.0 and drop into Word overrides the Word margins and sets the left margin to 0.5 inch. I noticed this with the APA and developmental APA 6 export modules, but I get the same thing with others as well. What must I do to drop a bunch of references onto Word and have them automatically end up with a left margin of 1.0 inch, and a hanging indentation so that there's another 0.5 inch indentation on the second and later lines of every reference?
has the general issue.
This may be a first clue of where to start: http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/4185/
but a good more general discussion that also includes indents and margins for word would still be helpful - also because I'd like to include it in the documentation. I'm on linux so I'm limited to Ooo.
should help for Word 2007
http://www.zotero.org/support/kb/word_default_font
hope it helps
Perhaps somebody who has a Windows machine and Word 2007 can verify whether this is just me or whether there is indeed a problem that wants solving. Anybody?
You say yourself that Zotero also overwrites your formatting.
That's one and the same issue.
I apologize for the misunderstanding.
Before, could you try out two things for me, though:
If you use the Word plugin, cite a bunch of items and then create an APA bibliography - do you get the same effect?
If, instead of dragging, you use the "Create Bibliography" function (select items in Zotero and right-click), copy to the clipboard, and then paste into Word - same effect?
To answer the rest of your question: When I use "Create Bibliography" and let Zotero create the bibliography in a new Word document, it comes out right. But when I have it send its data to the clipboard and then past that, it has the same error as before: Incorrect left margin at 0.5 inch, with hanging indentation of another 0.5 inch.
I'll have a look at the drag&drop feature when I get a chance - if the word plugin does this right I'm a lot less convinced that this is due to Word default specifications.
When I create a bibliography within a document based on the citations I've inserted, that DOES work fine, so I think the problem is not with the Word plugin.
In addition to the margin problem, when I "drag" bib info into a single-spaced paragraph, the pasted portion comes out as a double-spaced paragraph.
Also, font comes out differently: dragged portions usually comes in Times Roman, but the rest of my document uses a different font.
Every time I do this "pasting" of the bibliographic information, I have to 1. fix margins, 2. change to single-space, 3. change font.
I would really appreciate any help going about these issues.
I tried to search the forum for a forum but this was the only thread I could find. I'm not a technical person so excuse me if my language is not up to par. I hope I conveyed what I wanted to say.
I use Microsoft Word 2007 and the zotero in Firefox, both the latest version on a PC.
Which citation style?
Thanks for the quick response.
I'm using APA 6th .. and I'm pasting bibliographic entries, yes. From the middle column in zotero.
see e.g. here for word styles:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA102308821033.aspx
i.e. see if changing the normal style in Word makes a difference,
see if this happens all the time or depends on the style
see if drag&drop vs. create bib & paste makes a difference
see if you only go from single to double space, or also the reverse
etc. - the more clearly this can be replicated the easier it can potentially be fixed.
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/13951/bibliography-differences-when-rtf-or-clipboard-word-used/#Item_2
I work with Windows Vista, Word 97, use a french version of Zotero.
To create a bibliography, I have the following choices :
- create a RTF file
- create an HTML
- copy to the clipboard
- print
As I explained in my previous post, RTF files look perfect for alignment, but don't take in account some other functions.
From my tests, I would say that the problem occurs with all indented styles, whatever the Word settings are.
Copy to the clipboard or create HTML, when pasting into Word, give the same ugly result.
I modified the Word paragraph default as follow :
left margin: 0
first line indent: +1.25cm
before paragraph: 0
after paragraph: 10 pt
space-line: multiple 1.15
I opened a new file, wrote some text which used this default settings, pasted the bibliography after the text
The bibliography's paragraph settings are completely different than the text's ones:
left margin: -1.27 cm
first line indent : -1.27 cm
before paragraph: 13.2 pt
after paragraph: 0
space-line: at least 13.2 pt
Certainly related to that too, I noticed a problem inserting "display=block", (reported in the post : http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/14037/insert-linefeed-in-citation-style/#Item_3)
In this case, the block paragraph settings are
left margin: 0 cm
first line indent : +1.27 cm
before paragraph: 0 pt
after paragraph: 0
space-line: at least 13.2 pt
In this case too, if selecting create RTF file, the block parts are well aligned :
Angebault Christophe. « L'exception d'Alceste, ou comment le classicisme a pu servir
------à la modernité » [En ligne]. Dix-septième siècle, 2004, vol. 2/2004, n° 223, p.
------183-198.
------URL : < http://www.cairn.info/revue-dix-septieme-siecle-2004-2-page-183.htm >
------DOI : < 10.3917/dss.042.0183 > [consulté le 27 août 2009]
It seems that Zotero and Word have some communication problems
I too have this problem with Word 2010 on Windows 7 64bit, dragging into either Word or an email using Outlook. It's especially problematic in 'draft' view (which I normally use) as the text goes off screen to the left. In 'print' view it is better as it goes into the margin area, but it can still be seen there with a decent margin size.
Yet, dragging into Googledocs is better (it shifts a very little to the right, but that is better than to the left as in Word).
I use the drag feature when doing preliminary work, e.g. making lists of books to consult, etc, as I drag from Zotero into the body of a document, but not into footnotes at that stage. While the plugin for proper citations as footnotes works fine, it would be great to have the drag feature working in Word without the margin problem, as well as for emails.
I was hoping that the recent updates, especially the new 3.0 would rectify this.
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I still have the glitch as described above with Chicago styles when copy/pasting: outdented by 0.5 inch and 10 pt rather than 12. Paste is single-spaced.
If I switch to MLA, I also have outdented by 0.5 inch and 10 pt rather than 12 but paste is double-spaced throughout. And it also changes the font from Times New Roman to Times, tout court.
In APA, same as MLA, except font remains Times New Roman.
In AMA, the margin is correct and entries are single-spaced, but font also shifted to 10 pt Times, tout court, and the turn-overs are not indented but flush at the margin.
What gives with these margin and font problems? Any chance they'll be fixed?
I've also found that this issue does not occur with all output styles. I thought perhaps it could be fixed by edited the output styles but I couldn't find any corresponding values in them.
Any suggestions, I hope?
See if setting
export.quickCopy.compatibility.word
to true in the hidden preferences of Zotero
http://www.zotero.org/support/preferences/hidden_preferences
makes a difference.