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Hi There,
I am having issues with Bluebook Law Review citation format, which is adding an extra comma and space.
How it is: Furman v. Georgia, , 408 U.S. 238, 286 (1972).
How it should be: Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238, 286 (1972).
I checked and there is no extra space anywhere on the entries.
Thank you in advance for your help.
I am having issues with Bluebook Law Review citation format, which is adding an extra comma and space.
How it is: Furman v. Georgia, , 408 U.S. 238, 286 (1972).
How it should be: Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238, 286 (1972).
I checked and there is no extra space anywhere on the entries.
Thank you in advance for your help.
https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/raw/ba819d4d55542cf697b826a70586a96355233717/bluebook-law-review.csl
(It always helps if you specify the item type you're using and seeing problems with)
That worked!
But, the issue appears also when citing a specific page in the opinion (item type: Case):
How it shows: Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238, , 239–40 (1972)
How it should be: Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238, 239–40 (1972)
One last thing... something similarly weird happens when citing more than one source. Usually, a single source citation would end on a period, but when there are more than one, Bluebook wants them separated by semicolon.
How it shows:
See William W. Berry, Life-With-Hope Sentencing: The Argument for Replacing Life-Without-Parole Sentences with Presumptive Life Sentences, 76 Ohio State Law Journal 1051–1085, 1059 (2015), http://hdl.handle.net/1811/75462 (last visited Jan 22, 2021).; see also Michael H. Tonry, Sentencing fragments: penal reform in America, 1975-2025 3 (2016).; Margaret E. Leigey, Life Sentence, in Corrections 151–164, 152 (William Chambliss ed., 2011), http://sk.sagepub.com/reference/corrections/n11.xml (last visited Jan 26, 2021).
The item type for the first and third one is Journal Article, and the second one is a Book.
2. Cannot reproduce that yet. The style is generally relatively badly coded, so I made it a lot more robust now. maybe the problem got solved with that.
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/citation-style-language/styles/cafe4a88dc70fde0239205de04e1ec8608024716/bluebook-law-review.csl
2. I added a couple of cases in sequence to see if the problem was limited to Books and Journal Articles, and it showed the same there. I also tried adding cases without the link at the end to check, and the issue persisted.
Jones v. Mississippi, 141 S. Ct. 1307, 98 (2021), https://plus.lexis.com/api/permalink/a227e350-3cde-4a91-990a-43c0ba4b9b5a/?context=1530671 (last visited May 13, 2021).; United States v. Smith, 949 F.3d 60, 87 (2021), https://plus.lexis.com/api/permalink/ea5d6e50-a86b-4c81-8bac-1234ac882909/?context=1530671 (last visited Jan 12, 2021).; U.S. v. Thompson, 417 Fed. Appx. 429, 34 (2011).; Hope v. Pelzer, 536 U.S. 730, 88 (2002).
Thank you again, for your help!
John L. Campbell & Ove K. Pedersen, The varieties of capitalism and hybrid success, 40 Comp. Polit. Stud. 307–332 (2007), https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0010414006286542 (last visited Jul 26, 2010); Walter Isaacson, Steve Jobs (2011); BVerfG, Beschl. v. 01.03.1979, 32 DB 290–381 (1979).
And it's certainly not inserted in the suffix field for those problematic items?
John L. Campbell & Ove K. Pedersen, The Varieties of Capitalism and Hybrid Success: Denmark in the Global Economy, 40 Comparative Political Studies 307–332, 44 (2007), https://doi.org/10.1177/0010414006286542 (last visited Mar 7, 2022).; Walter Isaacson, Steve Jobs (1st Simon & Schuster hardcover ed.. ed. 2011).; BVerfG, 01.03.1979 - 1 BvR 532/77, 1 BvR 533/77, 1 BvR 419/78, 1 BvL 21/78, (1979).
I also have version 6.0-beta.5+8b7afcf24.
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/citation-style-language/styles/560cbf8d7b42a5f8d25f4023118ef56ab22110ac/bluebook-law-review.csl
See 560 U.S. 48, 130 S. Ct. 2011, supra note 1 at 74–75.; Miller v. Alabama, 132 S. Ct. 2455 (2012).; Montgomery v. Louisiana, 136 S. Ct. 718 (2016).
1. Can you make sure you definitely have the style from today 09/03 active?
2. Can you describe how you insert these citations, exactly, step by step?
Example footnotes from my system:
2 Campbell and Pedersen, supra note 1 at 33; Furman v. Georgia, (1972); WALTER ISAACSON, STEVE JOBS (2011), testurl.com/blablla.
(I made some more edits: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/citation-style-language/styles/45aa89698a74b82c85c1ae5691219f777fefa06c/bluebook-law-review.csl)
1. For each updated style edit you sent, I first, deleted the one in Zotero and then click on yours to add it fresh.
2. I am using Scrivener as a word-processor. I write the desired text and when it is time to cite:
- I select the word or place where I want to add the citation,
- go to the Zotero library and drag the source into the selected spot.
- When I am done, I compile into .odt format
- Run the Zotero ODT scan
- Open the renamed (citations).odt file with LibreOffice
- Click on: select document preferences, which opens the Zotero styles manager
- Select Bluebook Law Review
- ... LibreOffice works through it...
- scroll down to check the final product
Interestingly, I just selected a different style from the Zotero manager and the issue does not show on others.
3/9/2022 indeed
Here is what it looks like when I drop it into Scrivener...
{ | Campbell, & Pedersen, 2007 | | |zu:5288534:YXUMF5L9}; { | Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238 Supreme Court of the United States, 1972 | | |zu:5288534:JGRSX5PU}; { | Isaacson, & Misa, 2011 | | |zu:5288534:YDHUJLGB}
{ | Campbell, & Pedersen, 2007 | | |zu:5288534:YXUMF5L9}{ | Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238 Supreme Court of the United States, 1972 | | |zu:5288534:JGRSX5PU}{ | Isaacson, & Misa, 2011 | | |zu:5288534:YDHUJLGB}
The style will insert the semicolons
Usually and because of the habit of years manually citating, after dropping the references from Zotero, I add the semicolon at the end and enter a space before I drop the next one... I guess I did not think about it when you asked me to tell you what I do step by step.
Well, You were correct all along, and I was wrong to add the semicolon and the extra space, which triggered the style to add a period at the end of each source, thinking that it was the last one!!! I gave it another try with
I am SO SORRY... and a million thank yous to you and @damnation for helping me realize that the error was the whole time on my end.
Well, at least the style is a lot more robust now.
I have a related question, given the mystery I created was resolved, though.
When citing court cases and using explanatory parentheticals to describe something about the opinion, the format looks like this:
Graham v. Florida, 560 U.S. 48, 79 (2010) (holding ABC and D regardless of E).
Harmelin v. Michigan, 501 U.S. 957, 1001 (1991) (Kennedy, J., concurring in part and concurring in the judgment).
When testing the citations with the respective parentheticals, with or without space between them, it adds a period right after the end of the cited case. Is there a specific change I could make to the parenthetical to preserve the space without the period?
NOTE: I manually added the periods at the of the parenthetical above.
{ | Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238 Supreme Court of the United States, 1972 | | (Kennedy, J., concurring in part and concurring in the judgment)|zu:5288534:JGRSX5PU}
(edit: sorry for that citation. I realize Kennedy wasn't on the court in 1972, just needed an illustration)
i.e., See Graham v. Florida, 560 U.S. 48, 79 (2010); see also Harmelin v. Michigan, 501 U.S. 957, 1001 (1991).
Trying around, I found that those signals go inside the citation code like this: { See| Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238 Supreme Court of the United States, 1972 | | |zu:5288534:JGRSX5PU}
However, both See and see also would be italicized. Do you have a suggestion on how to make this happen?
{ <i>See</i>| Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238 Supreme Court of the United States, 1972 | | |zu:5288534:JGRSX5PU}Not sure, but good chance it'll work.
Hopefully the last ones on this...
For citing Court of Appeals opinions, bluebook requires the deciding court to show next to the year, like this: U.S. v. Scroggins, 880 F.2d 1204 (11th Cir. 1989).
The code for the opinion shows:
{ | U.S. v. Scroggins, 880 F.2d 1204 United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit, 1989 | | |zu:5288534:NQ4NVLWD}
so, I changed the name of the court to 11th Cir., and got this: { | U.S. v. Scroggins, 880 F.2d 1204 11th Cir., 1989 | | |zu:5288534:NQ4NVLWD}
When I ran them both, the result was the same:
U.S. v. Scroggins, 880 F.2d 1204 (1989).
I get a similar issue when citing the Sentencing Guidelines, which should come out as:
U.S. Sent’g Guidelines Manual § 7B1.4 (U.S. Sent’g Comm’n 2021).
with the words:
U.S. Sent’g Guidelines Manual and U.S. Sent’g Comm’n in small caps.
I input the source as a report (item type) spelling out U.S. Sentencing Guidelines Manual to see if it would change when used, but it did not, so I replaced the title and institution accordingly.
The code I have shows: { | anon. U.S. Sent'g Guidelines Manual, 2021 | § 2A2.3 cmt. background | |zu:5288534:DDUCVNSW}
which after the ODT, shows like this: U.S. Sent’g Guidelines Manual, § 2A2.3 cmt. background (2021). ... with U.S. Sent’g Guidelines Manual in small caps, but no sign of the second set of reference next to the year.
Very sorry for the lengthy inquiry...
When are/aren't courts listed next to the year (let's limit this to US courts)?
Not sure we're going to be able to hack the sentencing guidelines given Zotero's limited item types.