Footnote Ibid and page number abbreviation for Turabian and Chicago

saniol

With Chicago citation style (17th edition full note), page number ranges are abbreviated automatically (e.g. 268-69), but it does not use Ibid. With Turabian (8th edition full note), Ibid is used, but the page number ranges are not abbreviated.

I need both Ibid and page number abbreviations! Any chance one or both of these citation styles can be updated to fix that?

adamsmith

Note that Chicago recommends against ibid in its 17th edition, which is the rule that Zotero's main style follows. There is a version with ibid available, though: https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=id:chicago-fullnote-bibliography-with-ibid

saniol

Perfect. That's what I'm looking for. Thanks.

Any reason the Turabian style does not automatically abbreviate page number ranges?

adamsmith

I don't think so; it's probably just not been updated. I don't like Turabian (I think they should just say "use Chicago" instead of having their own almost but not quite identical style) so I tend to procrastinate on working on that.

saniol

OK. I used to always just use Chicago until it stopped doing Ibid. Then I switched to Turabian, but noticed it didn't automatically abbreviate. :) But the Chicago with Ibid, is perfect, so thanks for your help.