How to start Zotero in the Pale Moon browser?

Walter R

How am I to start Z in the PM browser?

The Zotero webpage shows an icon that should be clicked to start Zotero. But I cannot find such an icon in my Pale Moon browser.

Thanks for your help.
-- W.

aurimas

Zotero documentation was updated for Firefox 31 release (or something around 31), where the Extension toolbar at the bottom of the window has been removed. In Pale Moon, which is still at 24.7.2, you should be able to find Zotero at the bottom right. See bottom right of the window here for an example.

aurimas

Oh, you can also open Zotero with Ctrl+Shift+Z (make sure your cursor is not in a text box)

Walter R

aurimas,

Thank you for your help.

I tried both things that you suggested, but with no luck. (That is, I tried Ctrl+Shift+Z, and also there is no "Zotero" or Zotero icon at the bottom right. The only icon at the bottom right is the NoScript icon.)

I'm assuming my problem has to do with one of the other add-ons running on my Pale Moon browser. These are: NoScript, Flash-Got, and "Download YouTube Videos as MP4, 1.7.28" Or perhaps one of my other settings, such as "Forbid Java".

I'm baffled.

-- Walter

aurimas

See https://www.zotero.org/support/kb/no_status_bar_icon#troubleshooting

Walter R

aurimas,

Still no luck. Though I did look at the forum at PaleMoon.org, to see if they were reporting my problem with Zotero. Zotero seems to work for them over there. So, I'll take that as a clue. That is, I suspect my problem must have to do with something about my setup, such as my NoScript add-in, or my No Java setting. I dunno. I just guessing.

Any other thoughts for me to try?

And thanks for your help.

-- Walter

aurimas

If you go to about:addons, is Zotero listed there? If you click on Options under Zotero, do you get a Zotero Preference window? In the preference window, under General, you can change some Zotero icon preferences - try that. If you're able to open the preference window, you can also try submitting a debug log for an attempt to open Zotero pane via keyboard shortcut.

Finally, if Zotero is listed, but you can't open the preference window, see https://www.zotero.org/support/reporting_problems#reporting_startup_errors

Walter R

aurimas,

When I go to Tools>Add-ons>Extensions, I see listed, "Zotero Scholar Citations 1.8.7". For that add-on, I see links for "Disable", "Remove", and "more". The latter link leads to a setting for "Automatic Updates", and the choices are "Auto", "On", and "Off". And there is another set of buttons for "Disable", and "Remove".

I can find no mention of "Preferences" anywhere.

Also, on my Windows 7 system, I can find no file or directory for:
X:\Program Files\Zotero Standalone\zotero.exe" or "X:\Program Files (x86)\Zotero Standalone\zotero.exe". So I appear to be completely missing the Zotero Standalone.

This is all still a mystery to me.

Thanks again for your help.

-- Walter

aurimas

"Zotero Scholar Citations 1.8.7" is not Zotero. See https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/41243/incompatibility-zotero-firefox-2460-urgent/ for a way to install Zotero in Firefox 24/Pale Moon

Rintze

@aurimas, @Dan Stillman, I guess some people mistake "Zotero Scholar Citations" for "Zotero" since the latter isn't listed anymore on https://addons.mozilla.org/. Maybe it would be clearer if you asked for the plugin to be renamed? (e.g. to "Scholar Citations for Zotero")

Walter R

aurimas and Rintze,

Thank you for your help. Due to your help, I now see that Zotero can only be downloaded here, at Zotero.org, and not from Mozilla.org. (That's different from when I previously downloaded Zotero.)

That raises another question. Please I don't mean to offend anyone with this question. I apologize ahead of time for asking it. I had trusted the Mozilla add-ons to be free of viruses and malware, but what about Zotero.org? This website/download site is new to me. For all I know, it's in some foreign country.

-- Walter

aurimas

I had trusted the Mozilla add-ons to be free of viruses and malware, but what about Zotero.org?

That's a fair concern. All I can say is that the reason Zotero was pulled from Mozilla's addon repository is because the code-base is much much larger than probably any other Mozilla addon you're going to find and Mozilla simply could not keep up reviewing the code for each update. Since Zotero is an open source project, you have the option to review the code yourself and package it into a usable add-on. That's obviously not something most people are going to do though. In the end you will probably have to put some trust into Zotero developers. You can also search around and see if someone else has reported any suspicious behavior coming from the Zotero add-on (to my knowledge, no such report exists). If you're concerned about viruses, you can scan the XPI file with an antivirus of your choice.

dstillman

On a more basic level, if you do a few minutes of research on Google, it's pretty self-evident that Zotero, a grant-funded, open-source research tool run out of a major university, recommended by universities around the world, and downloaded many millions of times over the last 8 years, is not going to intentionally serve you malware and will probably take significant precautions to protect the security of its site and downloads.

Caution when downloading software is a smart practice in general, but reason should still prevail.

Rintze

For all I know, it's in some foreign country.

That's a rather general and mildly offensive statement, by the way. But, no, Zotero isn't served from Elbonia. And it's more likely that you encounter malware on https://addons.mozilla.org/ than on https://zotero.org, since Mozilla has to review code from developers they don't know, whereas Zotero is developed in-house.