Question about "Include URLs of paper articles in references"

Hi,

I found myself in a similar situation as https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/96712/urls-missing-from-all-journal-bibliographies-in-all-styles.

1) I co-authored http://www.zotero.org/styles/research-institute-for-nature-and-forest. As always, a CSL style will determine what to do with the URL field in the bibliography depending on various conditions. In this case the CSL style says: 'if the DOI is missing, but the URL is present, then show the URL'.
2) But bibliography results from Zotero with relation to the URL field for an article did not conform to the expectation, e.g. it differed from results in https://editor.citationstyles.org/visualEditor/
3) Then I discovered these posts referring to activate the Zotero setting "Include URLs of paper articles in references". And indeed, that was causing the difference.

However I'm puzzled why this option exists. It somehow allows to change the behaviour defined by CSL styles.

Should this option not be removed? IMHO the CSL style should be the only source that determines the contents of citations and bibliography.
  • I agree we would probably be better off had that option never existed. As it is now, though, it exists as a massive technical debt because hundreds of styles have been coded expecting the default (unchecked) behavior -- I'd love to fix this in all existing CSL styles, but that's not something that can be easily automated and so we're a bit stuck (unless someone wants to go through 2,500 styles... volunteers welcome)
  • Sorry for my late response.

    From the Zotero standpoint, I understand the obstacle. But I think it must be tackled for the sake of CSL. If a core aim of the CSL specification is to be tool-agnostic, i.e. giving the same formatting regardless of the software used, this aim will not be fully achieved if a major open-source tool adds custom (default) behaviour on top of CSL.

    So I do believe action is needed here to fix the many CSLs. Indeed it may take a bunch of volunteers (campaign to call for help?). Or perhaps financial support could be a robust alternative (publishers should be interested I think).
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