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See also https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/40165/spam/. Apparently Zotero was close to being able to switch to Vanilla 2 in late 2014. Not sure what the holdup is.
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Coming back to @aurimas's summary: Like @nickbart, I disagree with "Given correct data entry, the dropping particle has no significance for CSL or Zotero, so we can ignore parsing that part altogether.". Dropping particles are treated differently f…
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@nickbart, a second (and maybe better) criterion to distinguish non-dropping particles from non-particles is probably whether or not family names always include these name elements in alphabetical sorting. If they are sometimes ignored (e.g. with "d…
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@fbennett, thanks for the update. For the UI, wouldn't adding a second option to the right-click activated menu be more discoverable? Also, the Dutch particle list seems to have a lot of foreign particles in it (e.g. all the "Auf*" and "Aus*" ones …
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My bigger concern, as you won’t be surprised to hear, is to get the parsing itself right. I take it that there is some kind of consensus to ultimately adopt the simple rule “unless protected, lowercase words at beginning of family are non-dropping, …
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Ah, right. That all makes sense, then.
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I think we should still go with "position and case"-based parsing, but add a list of words that are known to always indicate particles. This way, even if those words are capitalized, we can parse them correctly. Can you give an example where such a …
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Agree on treating names with different types of particles as distinct names.
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I just downloaded your style from Dropbox and saved it as a Gist at https://gist.github.com/. That my version works might indicate a problem with how you originally saved the file. Not sure, though.
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That style validates: http://validator.citationstyles.org/?url=https://gist.githubusercontent.com/rmzelle/f4d65a73afae6e680e22/raw/b8cd47cb33e0c946e2caa5c59a8a716e2ef26971/health-education-research.csl&version=1.0.1 @sareis01, can you try downl…
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Well, JGR67 might have been using Firefox, Zotero for Firefox, and Zotero Standalone with a data directory outside of their Firefox profile. After resetting Firefox, they might have reinstalled Zotero for Firefox but lost their proxy settings?
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Did you restore or reinstall Zotero for Firefox after the reset? For more help, see https://www.zotero.org/support/kb/restore_after_firefox_reset.
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I found them microscopic re-open button/slider (curse you, retina display) A screenshot is still welcome if this "microscopic" button is clearly too small.
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@theplc, for which journal are you preparing a manuscript?
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The problem goes away by removing `quotes="false"` (e.g. on line 91 for the bibliography). (Zotero Standalone 4.0.27.6)
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Ah, good catch. But since those guillemets are coded as affixes on CSL variables, that still doesn't explain how the periods/commas are able to sneak in front.
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This maybe suggests that processors should not do punctuation-in-quote for some quote forms, or in some locales. But both users are reporting the issue for https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/pontifical-gregorian-university…
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You also might be able to find help at http://zotero.hypotheses.org/, which focuses on francophone Zotero users.
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If it's okay with everyone here, I'll contact other projects relying on citeproc-js separately, then make the change. We should float it by xbiblio-devel, but yeah, I'm in support.
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so can Dutch non-dropping particles be upper-case after all I don't think so. Note that the list also seems to include particles from other languages (e.g. from people who immigrated to the Netherlands). “Jong-van der Zijl, Isa de” looks natural to…
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Can you post a screenshot? (e.g. via http://imgur.com/ )
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I found a list of 333 (!) particles at http://www.vernoeming.nl/alle-333-voorvoegsels-tussenvoegsels-in-nederlandse-achternamen as compiled by the Dutch civil registry. (there is also a database of 320,000 Dutch family names at http://www.meertens.k…
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@nickbart, yeah, but hopefully there wouldn't be too many cases like that where quotes would be required.
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I'm not sure there are good names that contain both a dropping and a non-dropping particle. But "Vincent van Gogh" (non-dropping) and "Alexander von Humboldt" (dropping) seem safe choices.
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It may still be ok and we would be shifting more burden on the users to make sure that particles are in lower case. While retrieved metadata is often inconsistent when it comes to particle capitalization, making particle-identification case-sensitiv…
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@fbennett, since "La" in "La Fontaine" is apparently never demoted, correct entry should be [La Fontaine] [Jean de] where "La" is not considered a particle, and "de" as a dropping particle, and which should produce (with either demote-non-dropping-p…
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This may be a rather ignorant question, but are there any cases where an uppercased family name element is actually a particle? (e.g. we just concluded that "La" in "Jean de La Fontaine" is never demoted, so we don't need to treat it as a particle, …
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Per my example on the xbiblio-devel list ("Beethoven, Ludwig van" and "van Gogh, Vincent"), "van" should be DP/NDP. Regarding (2), “ten”, “uit de”, “uit den”, “in 't”, “in de”, “in der”, “in het”, “'s-”, “'t”, and “op de” are all common Dutch parti…
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Which versions of Zotero and Word are you using?
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I fixed this in the repository: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/pull/1628 The updated style should appear in the Zotero Style Repository within 30 mins (you can check the timestamp). Once it appears, you can install the updated st…