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  • Thanks for your comment. Do I understand it the right way: it is not possible to create a bibliography-table out of the entries that are inserted by zotero? It is possible to generate a bibliography; I'm just telling you that this process is complet…
  • No. The current OOo bib API and ODF support is too limited. ODF 1.2 will be getting a really killer new metadata system based on RDF, that will be suitable for this use case. Ideally, we can update the OOo API to use that instead, and Zotero can th…
  • The style has not been updated, but needs to be (since the current styles use the old schema). I'd guess there may have been some accidental change in the code that accounts for the problem.
  • Codec: thank you, thank you, thank you for doing the work I should have done a long time ago! This is a really nice start. It would be good if we could further develop it and move it (or at least the general stuff not specific to zotero) to the CSL…
  • OpenOffice has been working on providing something like Mozilla's extension infrastructure. I'm not sure how good it is, but am wondering if Zotero might take advantage of it? See here.
  • ftr: while there may be some bugs in Zotero's implementation WRT to unicode handling (am not sure), note that the style language is designed to be international-friendly. For example, styles are not supposed to include any localized text. Rather, th…
  • Someone is working on a standalone csl editor, though it's not done. Info and screenshots here. I imagine Zotero's csledit.xul app will evolve in that direction as well. Obviously if a developer with some XUL experience could step in and help, that …
  • Just google for "papyrus ris". I imagine that's what noksagt did.
  • joines: as luck would have it, the author of CSL (me) is a geographer. I'll get the style done; am just really busy these days.
  • Yes, you miss something. The Zotero team has been saying for the past year that social networking and collaboration features are coming in 2.0.
  • I'm not saying that RIS is the paragon to follow here (as you'd at least want to have multiple and/or interrupted extents, which RIS lacks). I am saying that clearly differentiating start and end parts of an extent are useful semantically. Sure, bu…
  • But does that really solve your problem? Say I enter in the split field the start, but not the end? It's just the GUI equivalent to your MODS example; I still don't know it's a single page. I kind of gave up worrying about this one, given the varie…
  • I may also be eligible for the academic version of Oxygen, but I need to be careful with that; if I use it to customise a zotero citation style then I won't be permitted to use it for work. IIRC, they offer a free 30 day trial. You could always try …
  • Exchange Lite appears to have support for RNG validation, though I can't tell if it supports the compact syntax. If it doesn't, as I said, you can just use Trang to convert it. MS doesn't tend to support RNG (though there's rumors they use it inter…
  • It is a RELAX NG schema, using the compact (non-XML) syntax. Trang (included in oXygen) can automatically convert it to the XML syntax if that's easier. What tools are you using?
  • But if an article is one page, the first page is still not incorrect. I guess you're noting that if you need to get the first page for some reason (like, say, legal case citation), you might have to deal with "1-5" or also with "1–5" (en-dash), or…
  • This has bothered me too; "pages" cannot be both "number of pages" (which I frankly don't care about) and "page range" (essential for finding and citing articles and chapters and such).
  • Yes, but is there a fairly straightforward way to accomplish this through editing the software? Perhaps it is as simple as manipulating a collection of xml files? I don't think any of this is in the least bit "straightforward" if you care about data…
  • I'm not sure there is any way to resolve the problem. The formatting processor cannot reliably handle contextual substitutions like "ibid" (nor the ability to switch between note and in-text styles; which is important in some cases like my field) un…
  • What I do that achieves similar outcomes is to create dedicated collections for particular manuscripts or projects I'm working on. That allows me at least to filter out a lot of stuff, without having to add a more complicated UI. BTW, this reminds …
  • Pierre: I think you should find out for yourself is Zotero works for your needs. You know what you want, and you seem to understand that Zotero may provides an infrastructure (tags, notes) to get you there. It's a free application, and easy to learn…
  • Scot: you should ask this on the xbib dev list. It may be a few days until I get to it at least though. I will say that whatever solution needs to strongly, strongly encourage style be available for sharing. We have to stop thinking about individua…
  • I'm uneasy with this idea. I'd prefer if Zotero automatically rendered the correct form depending on the position. Wouldn't that be a better solution than adding some new key-combo? Citation formatting should, after all, be as automated as possible.
  • Whatever approach is taken, as long as the appropriate styles/layouts are not available, potential users cannot switch from packages like Endnote. Is it really necessary to keep repeating this? Most of us involved in this work are publishing scholar…
  • - examples. The tutorial could pick a layout and show what a reference would look like in Word. Good point, though I won't be showing what it looks like "in Word." CSL is completely agnostic about how it's used, and I actually started on all of this…
  • Everyone here is aware of this limitation. It will just take some time to resolve. The csledit.xul interface has been mentioned here many times, and is a good first step. Oh, and the tutorial you link to isn't finished, so it's not surprising it's …
  • Interesting points Marsh, and I generally agree with them. But on the other side, let me just point out a couple of things. First, some of the limitations you note in Zotero will get resolved. The performance problems are in part because of limita…
  • I actually find the csledit.xul easier to work with than the style editor in e.g. ReferenceManager. Great! Just remember to validate your style against the schema. Come to think of it, it might be nice if one could load the CSL style from a file, …
  • It's not currently supported, though there are plans for a new, more flexible, data model and (I guess) UI to handle it.
  • dvd: let me just make sure you understand the technical dimension to what you are saying. If we say a Decision is a subclass of a LegalDocument, then we are saying "all Decision documents are also Legal documents." If we search for all LegalDocument…