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The URI is the ID for the style. You have to make sure it is unique and stable. Otherwise, Zotero will probably think it's the same as an existing style. If you're not sure how to do that under a domain of your own control, you can always follow thi…
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The "by" relations are inverses of the ones I listed. A refutes B = B refuted by A Right?
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I'm using standalone notes for entering observations and ideas. I then link to related references. It would be very useful to be able to describe the relationship of each related link to the the note. Currently my main interest is to indicate if a r…
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Why would you annotate a report (as opposed to, say, using notes)?
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I do agree that starting with LegalDocument makes more sense. Maybe Opinion and Dissent should be subclasses of Decision. So you're saying: LegalDocument Decision Dissent Opinion I was thinking: LegalDocument Op…
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At the very least, we need to start building up a comprehensive list of possible relations. +1 I'd vote for a wiki page for people to list these. No doubt some of the likely options are already covered somewhere.
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Dan, I'm usually thinking at the data level. RDF is perfectly suited for expressing these kinds of relations; e.g.: z:cites . z:challenges . z:questions . ... whatever. You can define those relations in machine-processable ways, add loc…
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I presume they're referring to being able to define more specific "related" items. I'd prefer including a wider array of standard relations, than using something completely wide-open, uncontrolled, unlocalized, etc. like tagging.
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I'm now thinking it might be better to have a subclass of LegalDocument called LegalDecision ... Hmm ... not sure that works for a dissent; does it? Maybe LegalOpinion?
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It's not clear, but I'm guessing you're talking about developing an ontology for citing legal sources in non-legal research. Is that true? Yes, but one that can be useful for legal people too, or least extended to do so (RDF is designed for extensio…
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I (author of CSL) would say that if pubmed ids are ever actually used in bibliographic entries, we ought to add a "pmid" variable. It probably makes sense for Zotero to support them too, although worth noting that one can do it too by using the inf…
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In CSL, the "note" variable is intended to work as in BibTeX, and so *might* be an appropriate target for the "extra" field. I never did have any idea what "extra" is anyway ;-)
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Dan: adding support for order will complicate import and export, as well as merging data (say aggregating notes from users within a group). It might make sense to first implement the server functionality and figure out how people will use it befor…
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No; they are unordered.
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scot: on style configuration to default to abbreviated form, you can just create a macro: ... or use a more general one:
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Bruce-- Just checking--do you plan to include non-print media in your ontology (films, audio recordings, tv/radio broadcasts)? I really want to, but it's just tricky to figure out how best to do it, and we also want to avoid boiling oceans and get t…
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To play devil's advocate, though, would one ever cite a shirt or a weapon? At what point do we draw the line and say this is beyond Zotero's (and related efforts') scope? Also, I don't think "function" is really right. You're just talking about cla…
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On this quickly ... Can I nest them so that the original MS or published map is on top of a hierarchy with stops along the way at archival holding, published copy, and Zerox/Scan? Google for "FRBR"; what you describe is essentially its work/expressi…
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First: I'm sure you're aware of the unAPI and COinS plugins for WordPress. I've encouraged some of my favorite authors who use WordPress to adopt these plugins. This does take effort for questionable payoff & sometimes can't be done by the autho…
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OK Dan. but yeah, embedding the files in SQL statements is not ideal. There's no way for me to know they're there (aside from you telling me), and I can't load them directly. Think code like: csl = Style.new("http://zotero.org/styles/ieee") I'm …
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mikowitz: the goal is that any tool can grab a given style from the URI of a cs:link element. So ultimately that might mean URIs like "http:zotero.org/styles/ieee". If for some reason you don't want to do that now (since Zotero itself doesn't yet …
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Can you make these publicly available? I'm getting a bit frustrated about having to repeatedly ask for this. I have no clue what you guys are working on, and no way to access it (the styles are neither in my SVN, nor in your's as near as I can tell).
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[4] Is there currently a place for storing the bibliographic data for the original edition of a work I'm citing (for the time when the chronology of the academic discussion is important) ...? No; this is the kind of thing that a new—more relational—…
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The modified date is essentially an internal database field; it tracks when the database record changes. I imagine it might become particularly important when dealing with database syncing, multiple users, etc (so that the tools can know which is mo…
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A wiki page would be good for this.
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Scot: The issue with how URLs are handled is a bug with Zotero, not with the CSL style. It's important to keep in mind that types like book, article and chapter serve as generic fallbacks. So they need to include the URL by default. What Zotero need…
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First, the support in Word 2007 is hardly "pretty good." It does not properly support author-date styles, and does not support note-based styles at all. Moreover, to change a citation style, you have to write or edit very complicated XSLT code. And …
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Simon: ok, good. But then why does the documentation include the sentence "‘cslID’: a GUID to uniquely identify the CSL — you can use an online GUID generator to create one"? While a GUID can be helpful to create the style URI, that per se is no…
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I agree that much of Zotero is now mature enough for day to day use, except for the Word plugin. In addition to providing the date outside of the author name, pagenumbers are a must. Huh? Cited pages are already supported!
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Elena: For the Chicago Styles, does CSL have a setup for a use case when one needs both long footnotes and a bibliography at the end? Dissertations, for example, always require a bibliography and usually long footnotes as well. Sure. The schema's q…