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6. Endnote Styles appear to provide the user with greater control of the output (combination of the huge variety of scientific styles available plus the availability of an inbuilt style editor). Yeah, but that's not the styles; it's what Endnote bui…
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Dan: great. Feel free to add those fields to the schema as you wish. The current list is more-or-less "what I thought of off the top of my head," and there's no reason to be conservative about adding new fields.
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Trevor: looks good, but I agree with Rinte's point about adding some upfront clarification of what CSL is and how it fits in the Zotero universe. E.g. something like "Zotero's primary citation styling format is CSL, which is powerful, flexible, and …
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@migugg: yes, there are a number of different ways to usefully slice the categorization: class (in-text vs. note) type (author-date, author-title, number, etc.) field (history, chemistry, etc.) base style (the style on which dependent styles are ba…
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Am I right that the issue here is really access dates? There's an inconsistency in CSL that is a consequence of legacy issues where layout for most dates needs to be formally created in the CSL. Those definitions are then, unfortunately, locale-sp…
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Hang in their James; these skills become useful to you down the road in ways you can't predict.
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Please search the forums. This has come up many times.
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@mark: the logic behind the position I stated above is that the suffix is designed to disambiguate things published within the same year, while an "n.d" by definition has no date. So there's nothing to disambiguate; the date is null, not the string …
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While (Doe, n.d.a) might seem odd, if you are in a situation where you have to reference more than one unpublished work by the same author you do need some way to disambiguate. What about a title? E.g.: (Doe, n.d., Some Short Title) There are two …
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But this is really a special case, getting localized quotations marks into Zotero at all would be the important step in my eyes. OK, good; we agree ;-)
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Um, the whole reason why we (including Simon) added the quotes attribute is precisely to localize them. I hope we can fix this soon, as it would be bad to see people creating locale-specific forked styles just to get around this. Dan, can you give …
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I don't recall discussion of this, but it's a great idea. I would say, however, that there's been a lot of discussion about enhancing notes, and that's probably the better place to do this (rather than an entry type).
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I did a style for the JRAI but can't work out how to submit it. See here. Firstly, it doesn't disambiguate between the same name in author field and the editor field, when the editor's name is substituting for the author. I would call this a Zotero …
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@mlines: would be nice if this "cheatsheet" were HTML ;-) And does it include specific issues that lead you to conclude the current style is "very imperfect"?
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So while this is "just a UI question", I'd say it's still important. Sure; am not disputing that. Just wanted to make sure we understand that these are really two separate issues. [...] Would it make sense to mix a flat and a hierarchical model? Fo…
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@simifilm: Just to put a fine point on the discussion: I think that makes a lot of sense. In most cases people don't really need a second entry for the original or translated version but really only need that data in one single entry. To put this i…
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@scot: the above solution sounds good as far as what data and connections get stored. I assume that the association mechanism would include the capacity to associate more than two editions with each other. (e.g. an original German edition, the first…
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i am sorry i cannot be of any help in this regard. i know nothing about software. You don't really need to; it's just basic logic that then gets translated into code. Dan knows how to do the second; the more basic issue is the first, which you can …
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3-i am not a native english speaker and i hardly know what 'unforgivable' means ;) OK, fair enough. Just to clarify what I meant (as a native speaker), to forgive someone or something suggests that they have violated some moral or ethical code. I…
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Your basic point is reasonable, but the rhetoric ("unforgivable"? did you really write that?) is a bit much. It's not the most straightforward thing in the world to do right, but I do believe they're working on it.
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@Rintze: that style you link to is way old, and way out of date. @selbic: you can override the standard terms within a CSL style by simply including the cs:term element there (though I've never tested this with Zotero, so can't confirm it works). I…
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All of the detail is helpful, but it would be even more helpful if you could identify an existing style that may fit your needs, or at least come close. That way whoever helps you is mostly focusing on the mostly minor changes you need.
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@selbic: think of it this way, if there wasn't these mistakes, wouldn't you value the fact that you don't have to worry about doing the translations yourself, and that even though the styles you need were authored first in French or English, they st…
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What I did : I modified the zotero.xpi by going into a file where the translations are. And at the place where I found "ibid" i put "op.cit." instead.... But i am not too happy with that... No, no, no; never modify code like this! And again: ibid a…
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Don't use prefix or suffix. If you look at line 439 of the schema, you'll see this: ## adds the text in the value field. use sparingly. ## when dealing with localizable text, should be ## used, even if this means defining a new term. attribute va…
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... it even gives you proper syntax highlighting, which is very handy for spot mistakes and generally getting a better overview. Even better if you use an editor with real-time validation like oXygen or emacs nxml mode. In that case, the editor wil…
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reply here.
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First of all, op. cit. is not an ibid condition; it is a "subsequent" condition. Second, and this is just me ranting: it's an evil, heinous, thing that is hostile to readers, and has no place in the 21st century. Don't use it unless you really, rea…
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@antonh: I'm not a Zotero developer, but I have had a big role in two related pieces (CSL, and the RDF ontology they use for import/export). From my perspective: Bad news: legal support is still a work in progress. Good news: since it's a work in …
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Ah, great. But has that always been the case? I could have sworn I previously ran into problems when committing files with valid (non-empty) timestamps.