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@DocGene: fair enough, but let's turn the question around: why do you, as you say, believe that "not everything needs to be open (in this case code) and that science-related organizations have the right to be for-profit and this can be a good thing"…
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The difference between a paper and electronic journal article does not warrant a separate type; they're both articles. If you need that distinction in the style, there are other ways to achieve it. Depends what you really need for me to give any sp…
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I just posted the start of a little Ruby script on the xbib list yesterday which is intended as a lightweight solution for the publishing part. It is intended to just iterate through a directory of CSL files, and from that create by-category Atom an…
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There has been discussion of this (see, for example, some stuff from my blog), but am not sure how far any actual coding has gotten or not (since, ahem, the server code is still inaccessible).
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Yes, it is (though they've suggested there's room for open sourcing at least part of their stuff). I suppose I'm taking a particular interpretation of what they're up to, suggesting that it can't succeed unless it's based on open data and open sta…
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@DNAcombo: that's an entirely superficial assessment. If you're an historian, or a legal scholar, I'd venture to say that Zotero is far ahead of Mendeley. And the open source nature of Zotero, while not fully exploited by the Zotero team (which I t…
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Yo, adam, what happened to the "I should probably add these styles myself" comment from a few days ago? :-) I, unfortunately, don't have time to do it today.
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Markus, can you read through this and repost with appropriate additional information? We need you to find an existing style from the repository that is as close to possible to what you want (is there really not one that works for you?), and then the…
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Yeah, scientific "abstracts" are not the same "abstracts" as we're typically used to. But I'd like to know, in those styles that noksagt mention that require the article type after the title, does that hold for other similar types (editorials, revie…
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I think Zotero's repo is the de facto master repo ATM, but that we should expect that to change. I see no reason why Mendeley, for example, can't have their own (for styles they or their users create). But if that happens, then there has to be some …
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My position on this, as articulated in that long thread, was: APA allows, but does not require, omitting issue numbers in continuously paginated periodicals. But since a) not all periodicals are continuously paginated, b) we have no way of knowing …
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AFAIK, the only thing mirrored to xbiblio are the locales files. That's fine by me. Rick is asking whether a dependent style in the Zotero repo can point to a style hosted somewhere else. I would presume the answer is yes, but I don't know. BTW, m…
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Fair enough; but neither of you have addressed the two problems I identified with the suggestion. I'm also not clear whether this should be a core Zotero feature, or whether it might be better as a plug-in.
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@adam: I think styles should be in both places - people who come to Zotero should see the amazing number of styles and people who come to your journal webpage should see that you're supporting Zotero. CSL is NOT Zotero-specific; that's the whole poi…
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Sure, sean. But style guides also tell you how to set body text spacing, and how to format headings. I think we'd all agree that doesn't go in CSL; rather, it should get configured in the document template and associated styles. So am just saying …
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@noksagt: +1. The workaround I was thinking might work in the interim is what I think I've done (though don't recall): you tag a paragraph with a "bibliography" style, and then insert the bibliography there. IIRC, that will yield the expected behav…
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1. the link can go to the article 2. true, but a) why wouldn't you want to?, and b) forthcoming functionality will allow you to limit access to specific groups or individuals 3. so select multiple items to share, or copy-and-paste multiple item URLs…
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@noksagt: you're missing the discussion. I asked him to host the style himself (since it should be the goal that journals host their own styles; that there is only one repo effectively now is a short-term condition). I think he's just asking that th…
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To play devil's advocate, isn't it just as easy to paste link to your library item? http://www.zotero.org/bdarcus/34/items/16419 As they role out the social networking features, this will become more powerful of course.
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On hosting your styles, note how the Zotero archive works. There's a link to the raw style file, and then there's an "install" link which serves the file with a "text/x-csl" content type. This allows people to one-click install the style (no need to…
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On validation, read the docs: http://www.zotero.org/support/dev/creating_citation_styles#xml_validation
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@sean: I don't really agree with advocating users modify local copies of styles just to fix line-spacing issues, when this could more properly be handled with proper style integration in the word-processor. This might just be a question of documenti…
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Ditto Rintze.
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1) did you validate your style? 2) did you change the id value so it is unique?
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1) make the paragraph a quote! Try it. 2) I'd say, again, try it. It might erase formatting, or it might delete content.
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@sean: what is "clean" is a matter of perspective. The solution you describe I'm pretty sure relies on all people being Zotero users, and all of those users belonging to the same group. What I'm saying (and I've been saying for the past few years) i…
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But would be nice to make it easier for this to be defined in the document template.
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That's an excellent catch. Would be good to document that somewhere obvious on the wiki. Note, though: the styles in the SVN (like the apa.csl above) are not valid because of the empty updated value. Would be nice, following noksagt's point, if thi…
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First, the all-caps isn't necessary. Second, this has been discussed here more than once. Try a search. Third, you can copy and paste a formatted reference into your email. I forget the command (since I never use it), but it should be easy enough …
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Alright, I just added csl.rng to the repo.