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@noksagt: just how variable are these abbreviations likely to be across styles? And what. if anything, structures the variations? Am wondering if it's at all feasible to put in data, as with the linked periodical data stuff I've previously mention…
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It does come down the question of reasonableness: some balance between need and ease-of-implementation (both in CSL, and in its implementations). Maybe this is a science thing; the range of possible journals is too large in many other fields to be …
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In the JSON format I've been working on (for a different implementation), I deal with this differently than Frank has so far: the name is structured data, and among the keys in that data model are "article", which I define as "where an article (“van…
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But this is a great example on why we must be smarter about abbreviations: abbreviations are style-specific! That may be, but it's a ridiculous state of affairs; almost comical that we have to worry about these stupid details. So, right: a) it won…
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The problem here is that we have to separate a bit the design of the RDF (what Zotero uses to import/export) from what you see as a user. This thread is more about the former. What I can say is that the current design of BIBO RDF has the following …
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I recently came across a new extended date-time datatype from the LOC, which might be appropriate for these cases; better (at least internally) than using free text like "ca. " and such.
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It's not really over-the-top at all... note that I said it's unusable to "me"... That qualifier doesn't make it any less over-the-top. It's at most a minor inconvenience; doesn't stop you from getting your work done, nor does it slow you down substa…
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"Unusable" is a ridiculously over-the-top adjective to use here; don't you think? I don't know the story behind this precise feature, but I do know it's been a major PITA for Zotero to be able to support both Word and OOo, across multiple platforms…
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@mattw: Don't change the style, because anything but a single ref (well, author) citation will break. Use suppress author, and add the author name manually (per OP).
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For what it's worth, Zotero 2.0 has the (rudimentary) beginnings of more advanced relation support—i.e., there's a DB table with subject, predicate, and object columns. It's currently used only to track links between library and group items, but th…
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My basic point in all this is that projects like Zotero need to work towards a situation where their implementations make no assumptions about where the data comes from.
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Dan: they're not call numbers or identifiers. They're subject headings that look like plain text, but are hierarchically structured data, with the levels delimited using the "--". See Karen Coyle's post (and related commented) on the new LOC linked…
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My point in saying that tagging isn't hierarchical is to suggest that it makes no sense at all to try to integrate a hierarchical system into one that is not. They are two fundamentally different ways of organizing information. I'm not a tagging ze…
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But a tag system is not hierarchical.
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I think having tags like "Medicine --Europe --Philosophy --History --16th century" would be exceedingly awkward in the current UI. OTOH, I would like to see Zotero in general towards integrating linked data, which would include lcsh subject heading…
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But again: ... for parens in the user-supplied cite prefix and cite suffix fields Where is this a practical issue? I don't see the people in this thread asking for this, and the prefix and suffix fields on a citation are for simple text content (in …
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Not to be stubborn or anything, but the users posting to the thread have backed this request up with specific references to the CMS, indicating that flipping to brackets is used "usually for bibliographic purposes" The use case at this point is way …
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Can we start from the beginning and ask: why are you putting a complete (note?) citation in parenthesis to begin with? In my experience, those kinds of citations are typically sans parens. I have to say, I'm really uncomfortable with adding this so…
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I just mean the notion there's a sweet spot of functionality vs. effort, and that going beyond often involves unreasonable effort for minimal gains. It's related to other ideas such as the evils of premature optimization I suppose. For CSL, every f…
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But there are styles which require German titles to use German quotes, and English titles to use English quotes. There are a lot of odd style rules out there; doesn't mean we have to support all of them. My basic criteria for adding features to CSL…
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At this point, you have a very large burden to prove that there's a need for this that justifies the rather significant UI, data layer, and styling changes that would be required to support it. In German, it is common to use a period between the ma…
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How about this?
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FWIW, some CD burning apps might be a good model for this; for example, IIRC Max. Here you have a preference item that allows you to construct the file path from the data variables and such.
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But my more important point is really this: that if journals and publishers were responsible for actually maintaining their own CSL (or Endnote, or BST) styles, they would be more easily able to understand, and hence balance, the trade-offs here. Th…
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But it's really hard to implement. If no existing software properly implements it, and it's a PITA for authors to handle themselves (manually), what good is it?
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I really wish that the American Anthropological Association would champion this effort and assist in creating a CSL style that will work with their many journals (the EndNote style doesn't work properly either). I strongly suggest people ask the AAA…
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Rather than worrying about Zotero per se, it might be better to look into converting in and out of formats Zotero understands; like MODS and/or BIBO RDF.
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So your problem isn't the publisher, it's what you call the "sale number"? What exactly is that? Is it sort of like an ISBN or UPC, but for UN docs? Also, what "system" does the phrase "organismos del sistema" refer to? Those that are in the UN?
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Why would you suppress a publisher if not the UN?
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I just ask b/c as I understand CouchDB, it's key features are a) it's flexible JSON-based data model (no schemas), and b) easy replication. I don't see how those apply here.