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Right; that's what I meant on the restart. That solved it; groups now show up correctly. Sorry for the noise (though it still seems less than ideal).
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On the reporting; OK. On the substance, this is totally bizarre. I'm not seeing ATM any obvious error. But I'm also not seeing ANY groups. Before I submitted, though, I did see something (probably an exclamation mark) over the sync icon. I have n…
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Re: the blog posts mentioned above, you can go here if you want to read them (check the trackbacks and comments). The short version of my position is that, despite some implicit myths to the contrary, the political-economy of technology adoption o…
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To quote from the linked document: Most language tags consist of a two- or three-letter language subtag. Sometimes this is followed by a two-letter or three-digit region subtag. RFC 4646 also allows for a number of additional subtags, where needed. …
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@Frank: I know all that, but my question remains: why not just tag each string with a language tag? AFAIK, those tags can include information about transliteration (e.g. script); see my earlier link. If that doesn't go far enough, then we can consi…
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I think whatever solution really needs to be standards-based, and to consider the issues I've raised re: import/export and such. I also think it's best to start simple and not worry about every possible corner case upfront. As a practical matter, f…
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But adding that interface to such a tight interface is, I don't think, such an obvious thing. There's just not much space. As for your other comments, the conventions are much simpler than adding HTML tags. This is not to say I don't recognize it m…
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I consider that a separate issue.
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Related issue: I can't see who added content (say notes) easily in the client.
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So do I understand right that you'd like to be able to have a reference list generated within Mahara from Zotero data? So it's important the list content is "live" rather than static?
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Put it this way: TR is certainly asserting it is a violation of their terms of use to use the styles they provide in any application other than Endnote. Also, I wouldn't read anything in particular into the dismissal, which was based on a legal te…
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My mother is Swiss, and I spent time growing up there (Zurich). I had just remembered that the written language in German-speaking Switzerland is High German, but it doesn't surprise me there are subtle differences I guess. But different handling of…
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If the collection isn't suitable, perhaps it's appropriate to use another service, like delicious? That's what I do, only using zotero for specifically bibliographic data.
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Yes, ditto. I have a really hard time understanding why Germany and Switerland differ on this issue as a matter of formal rules, given that they use the same written language (unless, of course, you're meaning the French or Italian-speaking parts, i…
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I've only skimmed this, but ... why should this be incorporated into Zotero, as opposed to thinking about integrating Zotero (and other) data into some other service? Google Wave, for example, might be a good platform? edit: actually, I misread the…
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http://groups.google.com/group/zotero-dev
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I was expecting that groups are just a special kind of collection. Why the copy model instead?
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So if that's right, I think my suggestion on this is to allow (soon!) a user to change the permissions on a note individually, and not to force them to have to do this with d-n-d (which will be really confusing in my view). Am not sure whether the…
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OK, that's good. I still find the UI a little confusing though. For example, let's say I find an item and add it to my library, and add three notes. I then decide to share the item via the group, but I only want to share first item. How is this supp…
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Right; don't want to have to look at source to figure out the URI.
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@fcheslack: still not seeing a feed link on the page (the HTML).
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FWIW, I feel the need to add here that not only are supra references are an absolute PITA to implement in software, they are also a PITA for readers (at least this one).
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Everything in Zotero is open source. But I agree with your conclusion; CSL 1.0 has no formal support for this, with the details left to implementers (like Zotero).
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Can you expand a bit on the "pull data from a webpage (using the latest and greatest from Zotero)" comment? It might be nice to set up a bounty page on the wiki to allow people to list these ideas. zotero site people: can you fix the css to proper…
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On legal issues, this is part of the reason I'm wondering if this wouldn't be better handled in the periodicals data incubator effort, where there is some infrastructure to ensure the data is truly open. But for the science people here, it couldn't …
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1) Yes, it's annoying that journals use different citation styles, and yes, it's annoying that journals require different abbreviations. However, isn't that the whole *point* of CSL? Let's not be pedantic here. CSL already covers a ton of real-world…
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@noksagt: just how variable are these abbreviations likely to be across styles? And what. if anything, structures the variations? Am wondering if it's at all feasible to put in data, as with the linked periodical data stuff I've previously mention…
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It does come down the question of reasonableness: some balance between need and ease-of-implementation (both in CSL, and in its implementations). Maybe this is a science thing; the range of possible journals is too large in many other fields to be …
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In the JSON format I've been working on (for a different implementation), I deal with this differently than Frank has so far: the name is structured data, and among the keys in that data model are "article", which I define as "where an article (“van…
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But this is a great example on why we must be smarter about abbreviations: abbreviations are style-specific! That may be, but it's a ridiculous state of affairs; almost comical that we have to worry about these stupid details. So, right: a) it won…