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@risch Thanks for the clarification. I have not been able to sync for years either because Jurism did not keep up with Zotero authentication.
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I have not tried Citation-Phoenix yet, so cannot comment in detail. It sounds like a very useful plugin. Have you tried it together with CNE? When you say "plug compatible" do you mean that Zotero with Citation-Phoenix can directly read a Jurism d…
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@risch I couldn't, but am happy to hear that you could and interested to hear more! in my case, Zotero 9 told me that the database is in Zotero 6 (true), which is a future version (false) and I had to upgrade to read it. I tried several tricks (inc…
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@Aborel For me, it is limiting that CNE only includes one target language and script type (English, Latin). I believe you can use a different language than English, but not a different script. The point is that CNE forces you to pick a target lang…
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I support this request. CNE is a useful add-on but still offers less than Jurism. I would like to retain the Jurism facility to provide multiple translations and transliterations of almost any field (whether or not used in citations). I am workin…
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@nomadism Thanks very much for bringing this to my attention, and am I pleased to have found an audience. Issues I am working on (and hope to solve within a few days) are 1. Some fields missing altogether (a slip up in regression testing) 2. Colle…
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@rish The problem was not synching with Zotero -- it was synching with Jurism. That has been broken for a couple of years now. I mentioned it only as one of several reasons to stop using Jurism! Once I migrate to Zotero I am sure synch will not be a…
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I am happy to announce that I now have a solution that meets my needs: https://github.com/AndySymons/Jurism-to-Zotero-migrator
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@dstillman Thanks. I tried several times with Jurism over the last couple of years, but no luck. I can export a few items from Jurism 6 and import them into Zotero 9, but for some reason Jurism will not export the whole library. I am also trying t…
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@adamsmith thanks. Yes I tried the password change trick but it seems Zotero has closed that loophole now. The new Zotero logon uses a web page to authenticate. I am not sure what you mean by "going from the Jurism database through the Zotero API"…
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I am working on an extractor (python script) that will take data from a Jurism 6 database and write a format that can be imported into Zotero 9, including attachments and CNE tags. If anyone wants to help ....
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@bknorn Many, many thanks for your patience, detailed explanations and pointers to resources. This has finally fixed it. The error seems to be that I had ticked 'en' in the sort column of the document preferences (though not in Jurism preferences, w…
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@bknorn ... so I do not think the sort settings are the problem?!?
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I tried unticking the 'lang' boxes for all languages. That just removed the translations and did not change the sort order.
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@bknorn I looked in the rest of the Bibliography and found several examples of bilingual items with no author that are sorted correctly (many starting 'Joseph Beuys...'). Anyway, I already tried writing 'Joseph Beuys' in full instead of the tilde in…
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I also tried clicking the sort boxes for all languages. No difference.
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@bknorn Thanks for your responses (the first one popped up during my conversation with @adamsmith so I missed it at first). I don't really understand the Jurism sorting settings. I googled it but found a user guide that says a lot about transcribi…
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[Jurism] I just flagged "[Jurism]" in the title line to attract the attention of a Jurism developer... Summary of the problem so far: I have just one specific item of type Magazine Article that instead of appearing under J in the Bibliography ap…
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Yes! With Zotero instead of Jurism, the sort order is correct (but of course I then do not have the English variants of foreign titles). I guess I need to take it up with the Jurism people...
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@adamsmith Once again I changed each field, now one at a time with a refresh after each change, putting ZZZ in front of the Title, Variant title, Publication and even the page numbers in turn. This time it stayed resolutely at the top of the list. …
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I tried deleting and re-inserting the citation, then it went to the top of the list again
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Yes, my Beuys thesis - four weeks until submission. No, the quotation mark is not included in the sort anywhere else, so the listing goes for example: Abdullah, Hannah, … ‘About the Scottish Cultural Heritage Consortium … ‘A l’Étranger’ [Abroad]…
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I tried changing the item type from Magazine Article to Journal Article. No change.
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I tried making a third version of the faulty item avoiding any copy and paste at all from the fields of the second version, and I did not insert the URL at all. The result was the same! I don't get it! I ran refresh with debug on again but unfortu…
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OK. Done
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I still have no idea why this is happening. I tried to solve the problem by re-creating the two items in question from scratch. This solved it for one of the two items, but not the other. I therefore ran refresh with debug turned on in the hope th…
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Sorry, should have said: MHRA3. I am using the Zotero standard template modified only to prevent capitalisation of titles. I don't see any options that I can set for sorting? The sorting is working fine for several hundred entries, just the first …
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I already do that :-(
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@adamsmith yes automatic updates are disabled because refresh takes over 30-40 minutes on MacOS but a couple of minutes on Windows (previous threads). I now usually work on MacOS most of the time but have to switch to a Windows system to do Zotero …
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Update: it did in fact complete the citation whilst I was typing up this report (!) so about 15 minutes after setting it up. It therefore seems to be a dire performance issue rather than a 'hard' bug. I went ahead and entered another citation, j…