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@bknorn Many, many thanks for your patience, detailed explanations and pointers to resources. This has finally fixed it. The error seems to be that I had ticked 'en' in the sort column of the document preferences (though not in Jurism preferences, w…
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@bknorn ... so I do not think the sort settings are the problem?!?
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I tried unticking the 'lang' boxes for all languages. That just removed the translations and did not change the sort order.
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@bknorn I looked in the rest of the Bibliography and found several examples of bilingual items with no author that are sorted correctly (many starting 'Joseph Beuys...'). Anyway, I already tried writing 'Joseph Beuys' in full instead of the tilde in…
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I also tried clicking the sort boxes for all languages. No difference.
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@bknorn Thanks for your responses (the first one popped up during my conversation with @adamsmith so I missed it at first). I don't really understand the Jurism sorting settings. I googled it but found a user guide that says a lot about transcribi…
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[Jurism] I just flagged "[Jurism]" in the title line to attract the attention of a Jurism developer... Summary of the problem so far: I have just one specific item of type Magazine Article that instead of appearing under J in the Bibliography ap…
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Yes! With Zotero instead of Jurism, the sort order is correct (but of course I then do not have the English variants of foreign titles). I guess I need to take it up with the Jurism people...
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@adamsmith Once again I changed each field, now one at a time with a refresh after each change, putting ZZZ in front of the Title, Variant title, Publication and even the page numbers in turn. This time it stayed resolutely at the top of the list. …
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I tried deleting and re-inserting the citation, then it went to the top of the list again
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Yes, my Beuys thesis - four weeks until submission. No, the quotation mark is not included in the sort anywhere else, so the listing goes for example: Abdullah, Hannah, … ‘About the Scottish Cultural Heritage Consortium … ‘A l’Étranger’ [Abroad]…
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I tried changing the item type from Magazine Article to Journal Article. No change.
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I tried making a third version of the faulty item avoiding any copy and paste at all from the fields of the second version, and I did not insert the URL at all. The result was the same! I don't get it! I ran refresh with debug on again but unfortu…
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OK. Done
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I still have no idea why this is happening. I tried to solve the problem by re-creating the two items in question from scratch. This solved it for one of the two items, but not the other. I therefore ran refresh with debug turned on in the hope th…
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Sorry, should have said: MHRA3. I am using the Zotero standard template modified only to prevent capitalisation of titles. I don't see any options that I can set for sorting? The sorting is working fine for several hundred entries, just the first …
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I already do that :-(
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@adamsmith yes automatic updates are disabled because refresh takes over 30-40 minutes on MacOS but a couple of minutes on Windows (previous threads). I now usually work on MacOS most of the time but have to switch to a Windows system to do Zotero …
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Update: it did in fact complete the citation whilst I was typing up this report (!) so about 15 minutes after setting it up. It therefore seems to be a dire performance issue rather than a 'hard' bug. I went ahead and entered another citation, j…
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Ah. Now it works in Jurism, both in the main header and in a variant :-)
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OK. I made two test references, one in English and one bilingual, to see if Jurism variants have anything to do with it. I set them up in a test document with the Jurism language settings the same as the thesis but with the citation style set to the…
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OK :-)
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@adamsmith I did some tests in a dummy file in Jurism to demonstrate what I said. Having installed Jurism, I don't want to go back Zotero because I am afraid of messing something up with Jurism and my thesis.
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@bwiernik What are 'standard English punctuation rules'? I googled the topic and find arguments for and against spaces. However, I don't want to get into that discussion here; the main thing is, I don't want Jurism / Zotero making these decisions f…
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@adamsmith Thanks! That was a great solution to my problem. I suppose that makes the Feature Request a lower priority, though it would still be a nice-to-have for any user less willing to tackle programming than I. FYI, I used the 'manual' method…
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@adamsmith I first added to an existing thread (that I started) with another example of the problem I have had for some time. However, that thread wandered off into a discussion on capitalisation rules, so I started a new thread for the Feature Req…
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This is the only thread that asks the question ' how can I stop Zotero capitalising titles in citations inappropriately? ' I posted a separate thread for a feature request to turn off capitalisation, which is not a question.
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That does not solve the problem! The problem is the unwanted capitalisation of van der Grinten.
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@adamsmith How do I change a citation style??
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@bwiernik, I have done that in the past in Zotero, e.g. by setting the document language field to zxx. However, that is no longer possible in Jurism as one can only select from a drop-down list, which does not include zxx; you have to select the co…