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  • Very old thread, but since the refreshed web library has been released it's perhaps relevant again -- is this likely to be added?
  • In terms of getting notes and metadata into Obsidian (as opposed to citing within notes there), you might be interested in my Zotero to Roam exporter: https://github.com/melat0nin/zotero-roam-export I'm currently comparing Roam and Obsidian; if the…
  • @FHeimburger yes! My problem with Zotero was always that last stage; I played around before with exporting mindmaps etc, but didn't have much success, and Zotero (for all its excellent, excellent functionalities) silos information in ways which crea…
  • Good summary @richard.masters. Yes it is me behind the exporter :) I'm slowly transferring more of my research workflow into Roam. So far I've drafted one paper using it, and I found the note fragments -> writing process to have much less fricti…
  • Hehe that's part of its unique 'charm'. People are excited about it and for whatever reason that hashtag took hold -- I think it was intended ironically in the first instance. Given how bad the interface is, and the lack of polished website, beautif…
  • It's browser-only for now, although the offline support there is pretty good. They are working on an API and apps will likely come, but if you browse the #roamcult tag you'll see it doesn't have the same ethos as most startups... Can you point me t…
  • @emilianoeheyns that's one way of using it, but it's got a lot of computational stuff up the hood that is immensely powerful for "building a second brain". For more see #roamcult on twitter, or e.g. roambrain.com. I think it has the potential to rev…
  • Thanks @dstillman -- is there a good, basic hello world for a bootstrapped extension? You mentioned on zotero-dev that Zutilo is bootstrapped but I wonder if there's something simpler to work from?
  • @emilianoeheyns thank you for such a comprehensive reply!! Re the translator, exporting the whole library is indeed an option but the usability tradeoff is pretty large, and given the central importance of collection data to its usefulness in Roam …
  • @emilianoeheyns thanks, yes, I had a feeling it might ultimately not be possible -- I was playing around with Promises etc but couldn't make anything work :( That's quite disappointing since getting collection names is the last piece of the puzzle …
  • Thanks for your reply @emilianoeheyns :) I'm creating a JSON translator that formats items according to the schema for Roam (a note-taking application). It's pretty simple, except that I need the collection names to make it really powerful for cate…
  • Thanks for the reply @emilianoeheyns Do you think that's the easiest approach to 'break out' of the translator sandbox? Given that all I'm trying to achieve is to include the names of collections in an export, maybe an addon is overkill?
  • Maybe a better approach would be to develop an addon. A couple of questions: In principle, would an addon be able arbitrarily to access all information about collections? And could this data in turn be passed to a translator that comes with the ad…
  • @qqbb that was actually me, posting from my group's account by mistake :) Basically what I'm trying to achieve is to get the names of the collections an item is in, for use in an export translator. Unfortunately I don't think it's possible because …
  • That's very cool, I wasn't aware Google had improved ChromeOS so much. Sorry for the misinformation @n.khan24!
  • It seems I forgot that I already asked about this on zotero-dev last year -- apologies for repeating myself >.< It seems it's not possible, because Zotero.nextCollection() treats the exported collection as the root, which is thus inaccessible…
  • AFAIK Zotero only runs on Linux (full fat, not ChromeOS), Windows, and MacOS, so I think you'll be out of luck, unfortunately.
  • I've been playing with the Zotero RDF translator, and it seems Zotero.nextCollection() only has output when exporting (i) a collection, that (ii) has child collections. In all other cases I see the same behaviour as above. Is it possible, when expo…
  • I've made the most basic exporter I can, but still nothing (debug log silent; only `[]` is output to the file: { "translatorID": "284f527b-c47d-4e65-b6ff-1af31d5f9fb1", "label": "JSON testing", "creator": "Laurence D", "target": "js…
  • Thanks adam. I'm still having no joy. Trying to bootstrap a basic display of collections: function doExport() { var collections = []; while (collection = Zotero.nextCollection()) { // First grab all the collections collections.…
  • Hmm... is there an easy way to log an object, equivalent to console.log()? I can't work out what I'm doing wrong
  • Been trying to look at this again and it seems Zotero.nextCollection() (or Z.nextCollection() in v5?) no longer works. Can a dev confirm?
  • Apologies @adamsmith, I misunderstood your previous message. Yes I think I need to do some more experimentation to better understand what's happening under the hood -- I'll create a 'clean' file with external citations and see what happens (and does…
  • @emilianoheyns That's not my experience with BibTeX CSL -- I get things like this: @article{rawls_two_1955, title = {Two {Concepts} of {Rules}}, volume = {64}, issn = {0031-8108}, url = {https://www.jstor.org/stable/2182230}, doi = {10.2307/2…
  • @adamsmith Unfortunately your first option (relying entirely on BibTeX) won't work because we're soliciting submissions from both computer science and the humanities and the latter simply won't be willing to learn how it works, unfortunately. As …
  • @emilianoheyns Not sure that's correct. An article could cite smith_2009 twice, or cite two separate smiths that both published in 2009, or one smith that published two articles in 2009. I think the first of these problems isn't really a problem, p…
  • For more context (again sorry for hijacking the thread...) I'd like to receive Zotero-based Word files, convert the CSL to BibTeX (including the '\cite{...}'), copy that text into LaTeX, then compile the PDF. Does that sound plausible? My main conc…
  • I'm meaning publishing. Basically we're (notionally) accepting both Word and LaTeX docs, but I want to use LaTeX for typesetting so need to copy the Word documents' text into LaTeX for that purpose -- which means using BibTeX to ensure the links bet…
  • Ah great, thanks @adamsmith One further question -- if I receive a document from someone containing Zotero references to sources I don't have in my local library, is that a problem? (I'm trying to create a publishing workflow for a journal, and I …