Zotero doeant work at AMS website now...

runningpig001
The AMS (American Meteorological Society) website was changed a little. Now zotero cant automatically download the paper. Anyone has this same problem too?

PS: zotero is great!
  • anders_royce
    Can you provide a link? I just tried, and it works for me. I tried this: AMS Journals Online - Performance Evaluation of Level-2 TRMM Rain Profile Algorithms by Intercomparison and Hypothesis Testing
  • runningpig001
    For this one: http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/1520-0442(2000)013%3C1421%3AEOT%3E2.0.CO%3B2

    once i clicked the link, and then the zotero icon, it would save the link automatically, but the pdf document was not saved in the storage of the zetero. I looked into the storage, some *.html, *.jpg, *.js were saved, without the most needed *.pdf.

    Thanks for your reply.
  • anders_royce
    edited April 5, 2010
    Okay, I see what's going on. The translator is the generic, embedded RDF translator. For some reason it is saving the articles there as web pages rather than articles, so you are getting a snapshot instead of a PDF attached. As I am no translator expert, I don't know what can be done, but that is the crux of the issue. Hopefully someone who knows translators better can tell you what can be done. Since the generic translator is being used though, it could be that the AMS people need to fix their embedded data.

    Edit: BTW, as a workaround, I would just click on the PDF, save that to Zotero, and then use the "Retrieve parent metadata" command to add the citation info.
  • Tjowens
    As another work around you can click the "Download to Citation Manager" button. Just tell it to export to Endnote and Zotero will intercept it.
  • runningpig001
    Tjowens,

    Thanks for your reply. However, it does not work either.
    Yes, Zotero will intercept it. But still, the abstract and the *.pdf are not saved into my library.
  • cjschrec
    Does anyone know who would be able to fix this issue? My guess would be that the problem is probably on the AMS's side, since it was their upgrade that messed it up. I don't know if maybe it's something zotero can accommodate though.

    I'm very disappointed about the upgrade. I liked the old site better, plus it played well with zotero!
  • ajlyon
    I'm not an RDF whiz, but it looks like they aren't generating quite correct RDF. Perhaps if anyone here has contacts with AMS, they could ask the society's technical support people to look into the changes in RDF used by the AMS site and point them to this thread to work out improved data?

    It'd be unfortunate if we had to use a site translator for a site that provides decent metadata using standard formats.
  • cjschrec
    I contacted the AMS webmaster, and their response was that they cannot accommodate individual requests or support third-party add-ons. So I guess it's up to the zotero developers to see if there is anything they can do.
  • dstillman
    Did this actually work better before? I'm not sure what translator it would have been using, since we don't appear to have one for that site...

    Given that the site has citation manager export, a translator should be fairly easy for someone to create.
  • cjschrec
    Yes, until 1 month ago, Zotero would recognize the abstract page as an article. Now it recognizes it as a website. The workaround is to click on the "download citation manager" link and download it as end notes. It requires some extra clicking, and the pdf no longer downloads automatically. So just minor inconveniences, but still frustrating.

    An example page would be http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/2009JCLI3316.1
  • dstillman
    edited April 29, 2010
    Do you have any items saved previously through the site? What's in the Library Catalog field?
  • cjschrec
    The Library Catalog field is: "AMS Online Journals - Allenpress"
  • dstillman
    Ah, so they used to be at http://ams.allenpress.com, which now redirects to http://journals.ametsoc.org/

    Ticket created to update the translator. Anyone can take it if they want it.
  • runningpig001
    so this problem is still open? any modification to zotero could work?
  • ajlyon
    Please go to http://github.com/ajlyon/zotero-bits/raw/master/AMS Online Journals - Allenpress.js and save the file to the translators directory of your Zotero data directory (http://www.zotero.org/support/zotero_data).

    I haven't really tested it, but I changed the address and it should start working again. Post here in any case.
  • ajlyon
    You will have to restart Firefox after installing the new version.
  • runningpig001
    edited June 3, 2010
    ajlyon, thank you for your reply, seems this new translator does not work either. I even tried to reinstall zotero, the problem remains...
  • ajlyon
    No need to reinstall Zotero. I'll work on this and see if I can get it to work.
  • ajlyon
    This translator needs to be significantly rewritten. It shouldn't be that hard, but it won't happen immediately.

    In the meantime, you can download references in EndNote format and Zotero will import them without any problem.
  • runningpig001
    Hello, any master here? Can this problem be solved???
  • cjschrec
    It appears to work on recent articles (since 2006). A bit strange, but at least there's progress...
  • carhogg
    I get a translator error from the AMS site. Is this the same unresolved problem discussed in this thread?

    My error report is 1700669965.
    This happened on site http://journals.ametsoc.org/toc/mwre/119/8
  • ajlyon
    Yes, this has not yet been addressed. It's not likely to be fixed unless an interested user contributes a translator, or the publisher can be convinced to embed Zotero-readable metadata (unAPI, COinS, RDF), or to write a translator for the site. In any case, I'd be happy to provide technical support and feedback for anyone who takes any of these approached.
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