Style error: [APA Style 7th edition (Basque/Euskara)]
Hi there,
I was trying to use the csl for the Basque version of APA7, but sadly it does nothing Basque related.
At some point, the csl says "eta", Basque for "and", but is not applied when creating the references, neither in-text nor in the list.
"Ed." or "Eds." are not replaced by "(Arg.).
The pages are not changed: In English, it's "pp. 33-44", in Basque it should be "33.-44. or." or at least "33-44. or.".
I did not check the "last accessed" or the exact date system, but they may not work either. That is, it looks just like the regular English APA 7th system, instead of the Basque version of it. I do not have the time to fix it right now, but I think the sensible decision right now would be to remove it, because it's clearly wrong and misleading.
Best,
Inigo
I was trying to use the csl for the Basque version of APA7, but sadly it does nothing Basque related.
At some point, the csl says "eta", Basque for "and", but is not applied when creating the references, neither in-text nor in the list.
"Ed." or "Eds." are not replaced by "(Arg.).
The pages are not changed: In English, it's "pp. 33-44", in Basque it should be "33.-44. or." or at least "33-44. or.".
I did not check the "last accessed" or the exact date system, but they may not work either. That is, it looks just like the regular English APA 7th system, instead of the Basque version of it. I do not have the time to fix it right now, but I think the sensible decision right now would be to remove it, because it's clearly wrong and misleading.
Best,
Inigo
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And we might look into changing the order then for the locators.
E.g. in English, there are prepositions (for instance, at), while in Basque we have postpositions. However, the exact form of the postposition depends on the sound/letter the words ends with. For example, the locative (like En. *in*, *at* on*), in Basque is *an* if the word ends with a vowel, while it's *ean*, if it ends with a consonant: *etxe**an***, but *haran**ean***. This is typically solved by suffixing *(e)an*, which covers all use cases. Would it be possible to apply both possibilities conditionally, based on some simple orthographic rules?
Regarding your question, I don't think that current CSL supports anything close to what you are asking. CSL is not aware of the contents of a "variable", so the behaviour of the output cannot be adapted accordingly.
I think it may have been my first ever contribution to such a project. I'm very happy about it! Is there any way I will know when it will be available? (Not in a hurry, just curiosity and wanting to verify a couple of translations in place)
About the CSL... it makes sense. It's kind of the standard behaviour. I always thought it was for convenience, but it make sense it's not possible by design.
Thanks!!!
There are two-three things. I would say one or two are relevant, and the other is not. I will start from the later.
There is a grammatical *gender* distinction, but not in the English-French-Spanish-Italian... sense (male/female or masculine/femenine), but animacy based. For instance, in English, prepositions are immutable. *in/on/at/* are always *in/on/at*. In Basque, they change, slightly, based on the animacy of the noun. In the *in the future* p]art of the sentence "I have faith in the future", would be expressed as *etorkizun**ean***. That is, "in" is expressed as *-(e)an*. (The "e" is there because the noun ends in a consonant. I will come back to this later.) In turn, if the sentence is "I have faith in people", *in people* would be translated at *gende**arengan***. *gende* 'people' is animate and, thus, the postposition is *(aren)gan*. I do not think this distinction can be introduced, because it requires that the system knows if the noun refers to an animate entity or not.
There are differences, though, based purely on the form. You'll see in the translations that there is often an "(e)" or an "(r)", between parenthesis. For instance "edited by" should be something like "-(e)k argitaratua". This is because depending on the ending of the noun, there should be an "e/r". In the case of "e", it is present when added to nouns that end with a consonant: *Mikel* > *Mikelek*, but *Eli* > *Elik*. The "r" should work the other way round: *Mikel* > *Mikelen* (as in *Mikelen irudiak* 'illustrations by Mikel*), but *Eli* > *Eliren irudiak*. I understand it should depend on the system architecture, but it should be a relatively simple conditional system, where if the noun ends with a consonant you have one option and if it ends with the a vowel, the other. In the cases where nouns end with an *r* they should always duplicate the *r*, before applying that rule: *Xabier* > *Xabierrek* / *Xabierren*.
Then, there is the problem of grammatical number, because in Basque it's intertwined with determination, and it depends on the grammatical case or postposition. Let me unpack. In (written) English, number and determination are two separate things: one can say "two dogs" (plural, but not determined) vs "the two dogs" (plural and determined). In Basque, it is not that straightforward, among others, because the order is different. The numeral goes before the noun, while the number, determinacy and case/postposition go after it. For instance:
- *a dog* in "I saw one dog": *zakur bat*, where *zakur* is "dog" and *bat* is "one/a"
- *the dog* in the same sentence: *zakurra*, where the final *a* indicates that the noun is determined singular
- *two dogs*: *bi zakur*, where *bi* = "two"
- *the two dogs*: *bi zakurrak*
But the situation is different in other cases. For instance, with agents (ergative case):
- *a dog* in "A dog barked*: *zakur batek* (the *e* between *t* and *k* here because *bat* ends in a consonant)
- *the dog*: *zakurrak*
- *two dogs*: *bi zakurrek* (again, the *e* is due to the fact that the word ends with a consonant)
- *the two dogs*: *bi zakurrek* (the *e* belongs to the mark itself)
but if the noun ends with a vowel:
- *a sheep* in "A sheep eats grass": *ardi batek*
- *the sheep*: *ardiak*
- *two sheep*: *bi ardik*
- *the two sheep*: *bi ardiek*.
With locatives, the system is similar, but the form of determinacy and number change:
- "from the school" in "I received the letter from the school": *eskolatik*, where *eskola* is "school" and *tik* is the equivalent of "from".
- "from a/one school": *eskola batetik*, where *bat* is "one/a", and
- "from two schools" in "I received the letter from two schools": *bi eskolatatik*, where *eskola* is "school", *ta* is the marker of plural undeterminate
- "from the two schools" in "I received the letter from the two schools": *bi eskoletatik*, where *eta* is the plural and determinate marker.
That's an overview of the situation :) I don't know if it's helpful. It may seem more complex and difficult that it really is, and probably, the easiest to apply would be the second one.