Chicago 17th Edition (Full Note) Suddenly Disappeared

honestevivere
Hello,

I was using Zotero as Chicago 17th Edition (Full note-Turkish) and suddenly Zotero gave me an error and said that “the citation style could not be found”. My friend can still use it, but it is definitely not visible to me. How can I solve this problem? Does anyone know of a solution?

Thanks,
  • dstillman
    The Chicago styles have been updated to the 18th edition, and unfortunately that may have broken things for some people. You should have the 18th edition available now. If you want to stay on the 17th, you can install that from the Cite pane of the settings or the styles page.
  • honestevivere
    Thank you for your reply. Actually, I tried to upload it from styles page, but the full note version was not available there either. So I had to choose Chicago 17th Edition (Notes and Bibliography). I think it cites the same way as full note. However, it is still interesting that my friend can use the citation style that is not visible to me.
  • dstillman
    edited 12 days ago
    The names were changed to conform to the CMOS naming rules. "(Full Note)" is indeed now "(notes and bibliography)".

    Your friend likely just hasn't received the updated styles yet.
  • honestevivere
    Thank you very much!
  • yanglham
    please can we have the Chicago 17th edition full note? as the we are not using the Chicago 18th. I think you guys should have left the Chicago 17th full note too instead of removing it, we users who are using the Chicago 17th full note are having a lot of trouble as you guys removed it
  • dstillman
    @yanglham: As I say above, you can reinstall Chicago 17 styles from the settings or the styles page. This is the process that's followed — by Zotero and all other CSL-based tools — whenever there's a major update to a bundled style. The bundled style is updated to the latest version, and a new style is created for the older version.
  • adamsmith
    As noted above, the Chicago 17th edition styles are available from the style repository and the full note version is now called (notes and bibliography). That's just a change in name, not in content.
  • Jeffrey.adams100
    Is there a way for the titles to be in italics automatically?
  • yanglham
    edited 9 days ago
    @dstillman @adamsmith that is what we have been doing since yesterday however we still find that some of the citations are incorrect such as when citing the same book twice. please can the zotero team look into it. Thanks kindly
  • adamsmith
    The fact that immediately repeated notes are author only has been part of the default Chicago 'full note' style since the 17th edition. You'd need to provide more details. Generally the 17th edition styles wouldn't have changed in substantive ways except for bug fixes and compliance with additional rules
  • sicahjes
    Do any of the currently listed styles behave the same as Chicago 17th Edition Full note, short title subsequent? It's gone from my list.

    I'm already battling with Zotero breaking in the lead up to my submission (when I started using Zotero, I didn't know it struggled with large docs on Mac). I ran out of time and had to submit without resolving the issues (which did not go unnoticed)... I'm really worried what will happen if my document has to update to a new style on top of everything else.
  • damnation
    Version 17 can be found here: https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=Chicago 17
  • dunning
    edited 7 days ago
    @sicahjes and @yanglham — You can achieve nearly the same results as the 17th-edition style labelled 'full note, short title subsequent' using Chicago Manual of Style 18th edition (notes and bibliography, with classic variants).

    The CSL 'classic' variants of Chicago retain the options from the 17th edition still allowable in the 18th, namely chapter page numbers (CMOS18 14.8), place of publication (CMOS18 14.30), and the 3-em dash (CMOS18 13.113). The differences between this and the 17th edition without author-only notes are minimal, but if there is enough user demand, it would be possible to bring back these variants of the 17th edition.

    The repository usually retains only the main variants for previous editions of a style. CMOS17, sec. 14.34 advocates for author-only repeated references to a work (while also allowing ibid.). The 18th edition changed its guidance significantly on this point, making shortened author–title notes the default for all subsequent citations, while also allowing author-only, title-only, or ibid. You will find all these variants in the repository.
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