Word plugin status update
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By the way, keep up the great work. This is really becoming an awesome piece of software!
Actually, it's not a matter of finishing a manuscript, but more of keeping a bibliography review up to date; I'm thus supposed to use this doc still during a long time. Any idea?
Anyway, this update looks like really good! Thanks,
Thomas
Any ideas?
System is as follows:
OSX version 10.4.10
Office 2004 MS Word version 11.3
clicking on the z"r button to insert a citation, i get the format selection dialog, but then Word presents me with a "run-time error '5': Invalid procedure call or argument"
can anyone suggest how to resolve this? i'd like to replace my Endnote with Zotero, but inserting citations is a pretty big need :)
but not getting very far - this is in a brand new (blank) Word doc, or one with just a few words entered to make sure that the blank doc isn't the issue.
any ideas how to troubleshoot?
Now the plugin seems to operate as expected!
To make it easier for users to install the Word plugin under Windows, I wrote an installer:
http://zotero-dev.googlegroups.com/web/ZoteroWordPluginInstaller0.4.zip
I would appreciate it if you could test it (and report back here if it works). All this installer does is place the installer plugin-file (Zotero.dot) in the right folder. It should also work under Vista, but I haven't been able to test this yet. If it does work, the installer can probably be made available soon via the Zotero webpage.
Alternatively, you can do the installation by hand. This is how you can find the correct startup folder for Office 2007 :
1. In Word 2007, click the Microsoft Office Button, and then click Word Options.
2. Click Advanced.
3. Under General, click File Locations. The Startup folder should be listed here.
By default, this probably would be "c:\Users\user name\AppData\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP" for Office 2007 under Vista.
Boehling, A Question of Priorities
is the first citation. No publisher information, page number, etc. Is it something I'm doing? Other than this issue, the installer worked great. Thanks!
2) Did you add the page number in the "Add Citation" window of the Zotero plugin? There's a text box for the page number at the bottom of that window. Whatever you put there ought to appear in the note.
On the other hand, It will be very good if citations appear with a style so users can customize the appearence changing it with word.
I insert my references into the first page, and they are correctly ordered by first appearance.
However, when I insert an additional reference to the second page, the ones on the first page are renumbered in a strange way, leading to a sequence of appearance of 1-2-7-4-3-5-6 i e. 3 is changed to 7, 5 to 3, 6 to 5 and 7 to 6. This happens both if I reuse an old reference and if I insert a completely new one.
Can anyone tell me why this happens, and what I can do about it?
Is there a plan to integrate the XML tags into the Word .doc, within the field codes?
This is the current system employed by EndNote, and RefMan, and it allows the data to be extracted directly from the Word file, and reduces mark-up costs.
Any information regarding this issue would be greatly appreciated.
I do think it's sensible to embed data in the file package in OOXML and OpenDocument, however. This is how OOXML defines citation encoding in its spec, and it's how we'll do it in ODF. That gives the benefits you describe (and also the possibility to have standardized encoding that allows users to collaborate on a document using different programs), without the costs.
But there's an even more crucial first step: using more robust global identifiers to identify citation sources.
But this has been discussed before, mostly on the dev list. It seems to me likely to get solved.
This system relies on the extraction process recognising duplicates, and removing them. Considering the recently introduced 'truncate field code' functions introduced to some commercial applications (to avoid causing instability within the document), we are in need of an alternative method for extraction.
How would you enter data within a Word document? Where would we find it? and How we recognise it?
ODF would work similarly, except the data would get encoded in RDF.
In either case, you could extract the data for the citations by simply loading the relevant file, rather than having to hunt through the document looking for fields.
As for editing, I'd expect it'd be similar to what you see now in Zotero and Word/OpenOffice integration.