Best way to get notified about Android beta slots
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What is the best way to get a notification when new beta spots open up? I don't check this thread often enough, and I'm disappointed that I missed this opening :(
(I'm waiting to get an opportunity to use Zotero on Android and want to be notified when the next slots are available.)
I understand that development is complicated, but wouldn't it make more sense to communicate more thoroughly with your users (e.g. by posting to the Zotero blog more than once every two years) so we can help more (and ultimately whine less)?
Keep in mind that I'm speaking as a paid user. When I have posted on these forums, I have tended to feel like I'm seen as some kind of leach rather than as a valued customer.
Zotero 6 was in public beta for a year with probably tens of thousands of users, and the issue in question was just whether we had prioritized a particular advanced feature that was important to you when developing the new note editor. As I explained at the time, there was a huge amount of discussion about the Zotero 6 beta, and the feature you were interested in just didn't come up much. We added it a few weeks later in response to feedback, including yours, in a much more user-accessible way than had ever existed. Development doesn't stop the day we release something.
Similarly, there've been thousands of posts on the Zotero 7 beta in the last year, and we've been engaging with testers many times a day throughout that period and making countless changes in response to feedback. It looks like you've only made a handful of posts here — mostly about the above issue and wanting to stay on Zotero 5 — and haven't posted in a couple years, but the slightest glance at these forums should make it clear that we deeply value and engage with feedback here. The forums have been central to Zotero development for almost two decades. The idea that we don't "communicate" with our users because we don't put out blog posts very often is utterly bizarre.
The Android app is a totally different situation. It's a completely new app, and it will have a similar feature set as the iOS app to start. The beta is limited because it's a brand new codebase, and we're not going to risk corrupting tens of thousands of people's libraries with untested code or frustrating regular users with broken functionality. But whether or not you try the beta, you'll have plenty of chance to provide feedback and influence development once the app is out, because that's how Zotero development has always worked.
The thread you referenced is a clear example. I requested the ability to edit the note data in the raw. What you added "a few weeks later", instead, was bare-bones table support. Not the same thing. While it was made clear that raw HTML editing was no longer possible because of changes on the backend, one should not confuse one feature with another.
I appreciate that you do reply to forum threads. I hope, however, that you will consider that participating in Zotero's development as a user/tester is not as easy or as friendly as it ought to be.
You've barely used these forums, so I'm genuinely confused by your approach and apparent feelings here. If you ever have requests other than that we throw out multiple popular new headline features that we've been publicly beta testing for a year, you should certainly start new threads for those and we'll be happy to discuss them with you.