IEEE URL missing (again)

tester123
Hi,

This already happened in the past, just create a 'web page' item in zotero, then generate the bibliography in IEEE style, and no URL appears. Is it possible to correct this again please?

Thank you
  • noksagt
    Rintze removed this & you can add it back in a different style:
    https://www.zotero.org/trac/changeset/3485/csl/ieee.csl

    But note that the IEEE apparently does not call for the use of URLs in their instructions:
    http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/5517/web-references-using-ieee-style/
  • tester123
    Thank you for the link.
    Let me just add that every author uses urls in IEEE publications, so my point is that if the zotero IEEE style does not provide that.. essentially many authors will be adding the url manually to their references.
    So i think that for this particular case, even if it is not specified it could be interesting to have a URL at least in a 'webpage' item.

    Cheers
  • tester123
    I also believe that this link may be very useful. It's the IEEE Computer Society reference style for conference papers, urls are included.

    http://www.computer.org/portal/site/ieeecs/menuitem.c5efb9b8ade9096b8a9ca0108bcd45f3/index.jsp?&pName=ieeecs_level1&path=ieeecs/publications/author/style&file=refer.xml&xsl=generic.xsl&;jsessionid=HGvLJ47gJLWWjQ23M0kWwPkwSsYWZShNvJQyJ2s1w2W3CpZH8d8k!-1287967096

    Cheers
  • JRTU
    @tester123: Hi. I would like to add a new IEEE style with the information you were asking for (add url and date accesed). But, I'm totally not a techie. Is there an easy way to do this? Could you maybe help me out through the way you did it?
  • adamsmith
    look at the link above:
    https://www.zotero.org/trac/changeset/3485/csl/ieee.csl


    put the deleted line
    <text macro="access" prefix="; "/>
    back into the csl where it used to be.
    That gives you the URL.

    To get the access date, you have to change said macro.
    Find the macro which looks like this:
    <macro name="access">
    <text variable="URL"/>
    </macro>

    and change it to this:
    <macro name="access">
    <text variable="URL"/>
    <group prefix=" [" suffix="]">
    <text term="accessed" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix=" "/>
    <date variable="accessed">
    <date-part name="month" suffix=" "/>
    <date-part name="day" suffix=", "/>
    <date-part name="year"/>
    </date>
    </group>
    </macro>

    This will give you the access date in square brackets with the word "Accessed" in front of it. You can play around with this a little to change the brackets, capitalization etc.

    For a brief and simple description on where and how to do this,
    see here:
    http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/5104/modifying-word-plugin-using-journal-abbreviation-instead-of-publication-name/#Item_2

    Finally, if this is really that common, maybe it should be included in the style? Or at least, we should post IEEEwURLs in the style repository?
  • JRTU
    Thanks adamsmith. I think it would be great to add an IEEEwURLs style!
  • adamsmith
    Before I do this - can someone post an example of a website citation in IEEE (i.e. one that is not created with Zotero but comes from an authoritative source - maybe an IEEE run journal or so) so that the accessed information looks right?
  • aakhter
    Is there a IEEE format w/URL now available?
  • adamsmith
    no.
    See description above on how to make one yourself.
    There is none in the repository because no one took the time to find out and post how URLs are supposed to look in IEEE (i.e. are they in < >, does it say "Available from" before, is an access date given, in what format, with or without any "date accessed" prefix?
  • aakhter
    http://wwwlib.murdoch.edu.au/find/citation/ieee.html

    has some examples, which i've pasted one below:

    [3] J. Geralds, "Sega Ends Production of Dreamcast," vnunet.com, para. 2, Jan. 31, 2001. [Online]. Available: http://nl1.vnunet.com/news/1116995. [Accessed: Sept. 12, 2004].
  • noksagt
    edited October 14, 2009
    But where did that guideline come from? Some Examples in IEEE journals only have the URI (no "[Online]. Available:" and no accessdate), some do have the "[Online]. Available:", but no date, etc.

    DOIs w/ conflicting citations of URIs:
    10.1109/MWC.2007.358962
    10.1109/JLT.2007.891175

    [can't find any examples w/ a date immediately; found a couple more in the first form than the later form (i.e., just the URI)]
  • adamsmith
    here's what ieee has to say (yes to available and online, to not access date):
    http://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs/pubs/transactions/auinfo03.pdf

    Books: Author. (year, month day). Title. (edition) [Type of
    medium]. volume (issue). Available: site/path/file
    Example:
    [1] J. Jones. (1991, May 10). Networks. (2nd ed.) [Online].
    Available: http://www.atm.com
    Journals: Author. (year, month). Title. Journal. [Type of
    medium]. volume (issue), pages. Available: site/path/file
    Example:
    [2] R. J. Vidmar. (1992, Aug.). On the use of atmospheric
    plasmas as electromagnetic reflectors. IEEE Trans.
    Plasma Sci. [Online]. 21(3), pp. 876–880. Available:
    http://www.halcyon.com/pub/journals/21ps03-vidmar
  • aakhter
    Personally, I'm fine w/o the [Accessed:..] trailer.
  • codina
    I uploaded a modified version that displays URL for a webpage item type. Check: https://www.zotero.org/trac/browser/csl/dependent/ieee-w-url.csl

    i welcome back your comments
  • jaustin
    Perfect, thanks :)

    Is there a reason this isn't included by default?
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