DOI Reference in APA-style
Hi everyone
I have a simple, yet somehow intriguing question; how can I disable the DOI-reference in my bibliography in a word-document? When the DOI-reference of an article has been saved, it is automaticly included in the reference, I havent found a way to modify this...
Thanks for your help!
Joe
I have a simple, yet somehow intriguing question; how can I disable the DOI-reference in my bibliography in a word-document? When the DOI-reference of an article has been saved, it is automaticly included in the reference, I havent found a way to modify this...
Thanks for your help!
Joe
Is there any other way to change the basic aspects of a specific citation style?
Open the chrome panel:
chrome://zotero/content/tools/csledit.xul
select a citation with doi and the APA style.
then look for the access macro, which looks like this:
<macro name="access">
<choose>
<if variable="DOI">
<text variable="DOI" prefix="doi: "/>
</if>
<else>
<group>
<text term="retrieved" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix=" "/>
<date variable="accessed" suffix=", ">
<date-part name="month" suffix=" "/>
<date-part name="day" suffix=", "/>
<date-part name="year"/>
</date>
<group>
<text term="from" suffix=" "/>
<text variable="URL"/>
</group>
</group>
</else>
</choose>
</macro>
and substitute by this (which removes the doi):
<macro name="access">
<group>
<text term="retrieved" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix=" "/>
<date variable="accessed" suffix=", ">
<date-part name="month" suffix=" "/>
<date-part name="day" suffix=", "/>
<date-part name="year"/>
</date>
<group>
<text term="from" suffix=" "/>
<text variable="URL"/>
</group>
</group>
</macro>
then change the title of the style
on the top under
<info>
<title>American Psychological Association</title>
to something like APA- no DOI
copy and paste the entire style into a text editor, use the save as... option and save it as APAnoDOI.csl (the .csl is the important part here)
then open the file with FF (or drag it to FF) and it will install automatically in Zotero.
Thanks
Carina (who loves zotero and thinks everyone here is doing a great job!)
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<style class="in-text" xml:lang="en">
<info>
<title>American Psychological Association</title>
<id>http://www.zotero.org/styles/apa</id>
<link href="http://www.zotero.org/styles/apa"/>
I only seem able to get an error:
XML Parsing Error: mismatched tag. Expected: </macro>.
Location: file:///Users/nathan/Desktop/APAnoDOI.csl
Line Number 91, Column 9: </else>
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Is there anywhere where i can add a style which doesn't include the doi field ?
thanks,
nathan
http://gist.github.com/raw/83985/7685755b6ce3f2474d2c48bf08031b53116104e6/APA-no-doi.csl
Perhaps I'm a bit out of date but I'm not really up on the doi stuff or how commonly it is being used, but I would rather not use them. It would be nice if a non-doi option was part of the standard install.
cheers,
nathan
"Wow thank you so much to community collaboration. Especially Rintze for that link i was a bit lost trying to find a text editor to save the file in. Now on to figuring out how to remove capitalization"
Shouldn't you just edit the capitalization through the fields editor per item? Or is there a smarter way to do it?
Is the solution mentioned above to get rid of the DOI still the most recent workaround?
I really love this program (it saves a lot of time), but I'd like it even better if I didn't have to scroll through my lists and delete out the DOI or change capitalization.
(http://books.apa.org/books.cfm?id=4210509)
See more here: (http://ksulib.typepad.com/talking/2008/03/recent-changes.html)
The new official APA Guide is being published on 1st July and should clarify. (http://www.apastyle.org/whatsnew.html)
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I agree Capitalisation is a pain, and it would be great to have some easy way to manage. I believe they are working on something, but I'm not sure where they are at with it.
I wanted to check up on doi's. When I looked at the APA website (I don't have the latest manual) it says:
"We recommend that when DOIs are available, you include them for both print and electronic sources."
This sounds like a recommendation rather than a rule. Does anyone know if this is right - that including doi is only a recommendation?
Thanks,
Nathan
As you say, it's a recommendation, albeit a strong one - on the APA blog they're quite clear about that:
http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2009/09/a-doi-primer.html
When do I include DOIs in my references?
If your reference has a DOI, include that DOI.
thanks for the explanation, though I personally do feel that it matters. Many journals, etc require one to comply with APA format so there is no choice in that - authors pretty much have to do it.
A recommendation seems different to me. I might choose not to follow it (a journal might come back an demand it but I'd deal with that when & if it occurs), and in fact this is probably my preference.
Give this I would rather not be locked into using the doi recommendation by the software I'm using. And it is terrific that zotero doesn't lock us in - by allowing us to edit styles or install new one.
However, I think it would be really great if a non-doi-APA style was available in the style repository and I get the feeling that I wouldn't be alone
(I'd also love to understand how styles are edited myself!)
If you look around, many of the online style descriptions for APA treat this as a hard and fast rule:
http://www.liu.edu/CWIS/CWP/library/workshop/citapa.htm#doi
http://www.umuc.edu/library/tutorials/apa_doi/apa_doi-text.shtml
etc.
For the same reason I'm very hesitant to include a style that goes against APAs very explicit recommendations on the repository - if people really want it they can find it here (linked to above), but we shouldn't claim something as APA that may get people into trouble.
I've tried the link Rintze provided above but have found that it adds "Retrieved from ." to alot of my references. That is why I was looking around.
It maybe that there is a style similar to APA that would suit me - I will look. But I imagine that it wouldn't be too hard to indicate to users that a style isn't official i.e. Non-official-APA-no-dois. Or perhaps there are some older 5th or 4th APA edition styles that could be made available.
Anyway thanks for the explanation.
Also, sometimes I'm actually citing the print version but I captured the citation online so it includes a URL. I don't want to delete the URL as that is useful. But I don't want to cite the URL.
When we say APA we mean the style outlined in the APA manual of style - and that style includes DOIs and URLs - including for articles in print.
If you want an APA style that never prints URLs or DOIs, just create a custom style by deleting
<text macro="access" prefix=". "/>
from the style - done.
If optional means optional for any item that's neither feasible nor desirable - after all that would mean additional user input for every item.
Maybe I should have been clearer on this in the beginning - every style in the repository needs to be maintained. E.g. when APA brings out it's next style guide we would need to make changes both to APA regular and to APA no-DOI. I'm just not willing to put in that work for a style that just reflect ideosyncratic preferences - that's what individual custom styles are for and that's why we're telling people how to do that.
Generally speaking, modifying styles manually is not feasible for most people. I mean, I can do it but if I could not reliably ask students, or even most of my colleagues, to do it. I suspect this is the case for a lot of academics in non-techie fields. Things on menus: ok. Things modified through configuration files: daunting.
I understand that it appears to be equally easy, but it is not for most people. A lot of people don't clearly understand the difference between, say, a Word file and a plaintext file, and often make a mess of things when attempting to modify a setting. The more widespread Zotero becomes, the more of an issue such things will be. I am on the verge of recommending Zotero to students rather than Endnote on the web. I understand the configurability versus ease-of-use trade-off and often the only solution is to have more than one way to do things. Menus for the general public, file manipulation / command line, etc. for a smaller group of people.
b) if you don't care about exact APA compliance for your students anyway, why not tell them to use Chicago author-date?
c) the solution to that problem (which I agree exists) is to make styles more easily customizable - which is something that no one denies as a highly desirable feature, but it's hard to do well (Endnote does it, but their styles have more limitations). The solution cannot be to put every modification anyone could ever want on the repository.
was away for a couple of days but yes what I was looking for was a reference style that basically conformed to APA but without doi or urls - so I'm happy if it is not called APA, I understand the fear of misleading people!
a) Following up on the following convestian it is worth noting that chicago style isn't quite the same as APA without doi & url. Eg the date is not in brackets. Not sure if there is an alternative that fits. Should also note that Chicago sees to include doi's as well in any case.
b) I understand the reluctance to have controls to include/exclude options for each style because with all the possible styles possible options this could become unmanageble. Though I suppose only the options associated with each specific style could be illustrated.
c) in fiddling with the styles I find the url control frustrating because it does not allow one to exlude all urls - only those where page number are given, I think! The sources of citations are not always that perfect, so I don't have page numbers (reportes, etc). And often I just don't want any urls - as Zeynep says I'm often working with paper sources but just collecting the reference material on line.
I guess the back drop to this is the fact that the APA has just added on additional elements to referencing which they more or less say we must use, but which many of us don't want to in at least some circumstances.
Perhaps the easiest solution is to have APA 5th edition (I'm assuming this didn't kind-of-mandate doi's and urls) available so that people who want to use that can do so. I'm assuming that this might require less maintainance because the style is no longer being developed?