Timline on Mac Word 2004 plugin?
When I downloaded Beta I somehow missed the warning that it wasn't compatible with Mac Word 2004. Any idea when this plugin will become available? Or do I have to try to reconstruct my library using Time Machine...
Thanks for any guesstimate.
Thanks for any guesstimate.
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without the menu-bar I find the word 2008 integration cumbersome. I know about the technical reasons and its a pity that there is no easy fix for this.
We're still hoping to provide a Word 2004–compatible plugin that works with 1.5, but there's no ETA. You probably know this, but you can use keyboard shortcuts (w/Control-Option) to run the menu commands.
thx for your quick reply. yes I do know about the short-cuts but I already use tons of em and I guess my brain is at the end of its capacity to remember shortcuts ;)
that said I also don't think that word 2008 is a good product. its not bad but I rather stick with 2004 for the time being.
'still hoping' does not sound very encouraging. is there a commitment by the zotero dev's to support 2004 for 1.5 and beyond?!
1) We prioritize development to support current and upcoming software. Word 2004 is 5 years old. I'm not wild about Word 2008 either, and I don't see it as a clear improvement over Word 2004. But then again, I was perfectly happy with Word 5.1.
2) There is significant overhead associated with supporting Microsoft Office's various flavors and platforms. Dropping VBA in Office 2008 was a knuckleheaded move that made life extremely difficult for third-party developers. The steps we took to work around this change ultimately have made for a much speedier and more efficient plugin, but the downside is the loss of Word 2004 compatibility.
thx for taking time to adress this question. I am glad to hear that you plan to support 04 and hope for a timely release.
I am aware of the vba-issues and regard it as ms powerplay and a deliberate move to depreciate the osx platform. maybe after finishing my current project I should ditch office altogether and finally migrate to oo - 3.1. is shaping up nicely...
thx!
thx so far. gave the plug-in a try but revoked back to 1.09 after a few hours. it worked fine, but needed a couple of refresh every now and then as zotero would tell me firefox is not running. I am in the middle of a book and decided to stick with with older version for another couple of weeks. will give it another spin then!
Please please please keep working on that Mac 2004 integration. I downloaded the experimental version, but I am trying to finish my dissertation in the next couple of months and need this to work right.
I must say that the warnings for the installation of Zotero 1.5 need to be way way way way way way way way way more pronounced. The fact that you cannot revert back to the older version may have nothing to do with you, but I never in a million years would have installed it had I seen the warnings that you cannot revert. That should be on the front page in huge red font right under the download the veta version link. I didn't have OS X 10.5 and I was using Office 2004. I bought the new operating system and now I'm going to have to buy the new office software just to make this work again.
I'm thinking of just switching to something else, but I really liked using Zotero until this not-sufficient-warning thing happened. I think that the product is really cool, but I am really really frustrated.
I still can't get 1.5 to work because I don't have Office 2008 and I can't get the experimental Word 2004 plugin to work yet. I got Zotero to work again in Firefox once I updated to 10.5, but it won't integrate with Word still. I'm still working on it, though.
Maybe the warning could be on the mainpage something like this:
Link (Download 1.5 beta)
Warning: Must have Office 2008 and OS X 10.5
There is a very new version of the Word plugin for the 1.5 beta. I haven't been able to get that to work. That is the problem I am having. Zotero 1.5 beta was also not working until I updated to OS X 10.5. Now it works fine within Firefox 3, but won't integrate with Word 2004.
I should have been more clear: Zotero 1.5 works fine in OS X 10.4. I'm using it right now.
If you are having problems with the Word 2004 plugin, please let us know what they are so that we can help you.
In an effort to not just be a complainer, I will say that the whole process so far seems to be working much faster than it used to with the older version. I'm pretty hopeful about getting it to work. I like the software.
I have tried Harvard (Reference format: Author, date). This is the style I use. In addition I have also tried Journal of Royal Anthropology Institute and Chicago manual style (Author date). None of them work. I have also tried to switch between fields and bookmarks. The latter does now work at all.
Another thing. When I reopen word, I still need to manually activate the zotero toolbar by through "templates and add-ins under the tools menu.