alphabetize records without A or The
I'm sorry if this has already been suggested.. I searched but did not see anything.
In future versions it would be helpful if Zotero could alphabetize records by title name NOT counting the words A or The (as library catalogs do). Fairly minor but getting frustrating as my database gets into the 100s. Of course it is very helpful that there is a search window that finds individual words if all else fails..
super program overall, of course! thanks!
In future versions it would be helpful if Zotero could alphabetize records by title name NOT counting the words A or The (as library catalogs do). Fairly minor but getting frustrating as my database gets into the 100s. Of course it is very helpful that there is a search window that finds individual words if all else fails..
super program overall, of course! thanks!
This gets a little tricky if you want to be international-friendly. If I have Spanish and French titles in my database (or a Spanish or French user has some English titles), then what?
Perhaps a localized list of exclusion words, with some obvious defaults, would be good. It's an issue for bibliographic and citation formatting too in some cases.
(If you replace "competitive" with "cooperative" there, you'll be closer to the mark. :-)
Doing this in bibliographies, otoh, is crucial and via Frank's involvement here, this is as formal as it normally gets for citeproc. I think there have been several discussions on this, but I don't remember the status. The first question would be whether this can be hardcoded into the citeproc for all styles or whether this needs to be a toogle in CSL. We must have discussed this before--Rintze, Frank, any recollection?
In the CSL-m schema extension, I added an experimental leading-noise-words attribute. (Looking at it now, the list of words in that setup should probably be bound to language, but it's an idea.)
If CSL comes up with a syntax, we can implement in the processors.
Otherwise, we'll need a CSL syntax (likely just an attribute in cs:style) and this will likely take a bit longer.
1. Non-English titles in English citation styles (that should be easy and I could look it up, but I figure you already have the sections of the manuals dug up) (i.e. Die Leiden des Jungen Werther under L or D?)
2. Titles in non-English citation styles in the same language of the style?
3. Titles in non-English citation styles in other languages than the style (including, of course) English.
Hoping for some input from zuphilip and Gracile or clio on German and English practice here.
MLA treats foreign articles like their English equivalents (Die Leiden sorted under L)
Chicago, in contrast, appears to sort indexes and bibliographies based on the foreign articles, rather than dropping them.
APA doesn't specify, but usually follows Chicago in edge cases like this one.
E.g.: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modèle:Classement_alphabétique
(But AFNOR Z 44-080, a cataloguing standard though, seems to exclude all articles, unless the article is part of a proper noun.)
See also Gracile's note on French.
@fbennett, yes that makes sense, I was thinking about this last night.
While we are discussing sorting peculiarities, MLA, Chicago, and SPA also require numerals to be sorted as though they were spelled out. I don't know if this differs across styles.
+1 for locales; and this would make possible to adapt the list on a style-by-style basis.
Including the dropped sorting words in locales sounds like a good idea. Then, the CSL parameter could be something like 'sorting-foreign-drop-articles'
(By SPA, I meant APA--autocorrected)
Think about localizing that rule: in German, e.g., 82 and 82,000 start with Z while 820 and 8,200 start with A.
For what it is worth, journal publishers don't seem too concerned about this aspect of author name sorting. The noted British sociologist David Ashworth legally changed his name to Perri 6. His specialty is cultural concepts of risk. In bibliographies sorted by author name he is usually at the top but even in the same journal his name is sometimes article bibliographies have him sorted under "S". I think I remember once finding his name sorted at the end.
Personally, I would like numbers always sorted at the top. That way, I'll always know where to find the items. It seems to me that this is one of those things that may need to be hand edited after the bibliography is complete.