Debugging on MacOS Ventura beta?

Hi! I make the Zotero-night plugin, and I rely on being able to inspect the DOM in order to figure out the relevant css selectors. I was doing this by remote debugging Zotero with Firefox 60-ESR, but on the latest MacOS version (Ventura/13) for Apple Silicon I have not been able to get Firefox to boot up.

Given that I've seen it be mentioned that Zotero is tested on Venture for Apple Silicon, is this a known issue or am I missing something? Is there any other way to inspect the DOM for Zotero?

Thank you for your time!

  • To be more specific, it will instantly crash on startup with the following details:
    AdapterDeviceID: 0x6810
    AdapterVendorID: 0x1002
    BuildID: 20200527211442
    CrashTime: 1663862520
    DOMIPCEnabled: 1
    InstallTime: 1663861507
    Notes: FP(D00-L1000-W00000000-T000) WR? WR- OMTP? OMTP+4
    ProductID: {ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}
    ProductName: Firefox
    ReleaseChannel: esr
    SafeMode: 0
    SecondsSinceLastCrash: 1012
    StartupCrash: 1
    StartupTime: 1663862518
    ThreadIdNameMapping: 7:"Gecko_IOThread",7:"JS Watchdog",13:"JS Helper",8:"JS Helper",11:"JS Helper",12:"JS Helper",10:"JS Helper",9:"JS Helper",14:"JS Helper",15:"JS Helper",16:"Timer",17:"Socket Thread",19:"IPDL Background",20:"Compositor",21:"ImgDecoder #1",22:"ImageIO",24:"StreamTrans #1",26:"StreamTrans #3",30:"StreamTrans #7",31:"StreamTrans #8",32:"StreamTrans #9",31:"StyleThread#2",30:"StyleThread#1",34:"StyleThread#5",29:"StyleThread#0",33:"StyleThread#4",32:"StyleThread#3",
    Throttleable: 1
    UptimeTS: 11.422
    Vendor: Mozilla
    Version: 68.9.0

    This report also contains technical information about the state of the application when it crashed.
  • (this was for 68 but it's the same for 60)
  • Yeah, you shouldn't expect Firefox 60 to work on Ventura. For now, you'll want to continue running Fx60 on Monterey/Linux/Windows, perhaps in a VM. You can of course also just use something like document.documentElement.outerHTML in the Run JavaScript console to see the whole DOM for the document, though that wouldn't let you easily test new styles.

    As noted on the dev list, going forward Zotero 7 will be compatible with the current Firefox Dev Tools.
  • Ah I just saw that announcement, very exciting! I will then just try to keep up with a few new styles and not make too many adjustments until Zotero 7!
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