Issues with Scrivener, LibreOffice, and Zotero citation plug-ins
After compiling a document in Scrivener, opening in LibreOffice, I am trying to select an idea citation style setting document preferences on the Zotero toolbar in LibreOffice, but I am facing serious issues.
1) I opened the .odt file with citations and noticed they are in a LASTNAME, YEAR format. They are also in different fonts.
2) Clicked on Set Doc Preferences and chose Bluebook Law Review, footnotes, ReferenceMarks, Use MEDLINE journal addr, and automatically update citations.
3) Get a warning box: The highlighted citation no longer exists in your Zotero database. Do you want to select a substitute item? When I click "no" LibreOffice begins to populate the citations, which appeared in i.e., 96. CITATION format
4) Get another warning box:
Updating citations in this document is taking a long time. Would you like to disable automatic citation updates?
You will need to click Refresh in the Zotero toolbar when you are done inserting citations.
You can change this setting later in the document preferences.
5) After clicking "yes" I have a citation number followed by a shaded number through half of a page, then a line followed by a full citation. When I erase the number above the line, the citations below the line are automatically deleted accordingly.
I updated LibreOffice (7.1.3.2), reinstalled the LibreOffice-Zotero plug-in successfully. I tried every which way to make this work to no avail. Would someone help me understand what I am doing wrong?
1) I opened the .odt file with citations and noticed they are in a LASTNAME, YEAR format. They are also in different fonts.
2) Clicked on Set Doc Preferences and chose Bluebook Law Review, footnotes, ReferenceMarks, Use MEDLINE journal addr, and automatically update citations.
3) Get a warning box: The highlighted citation no longer exists in your Zotero database. Do you want to select a substitute item? When I click "no" LibreOffice begins to populate the citations, which appeared in i.e., 96. CITATION format
4) Get another warning box:
Updating citations in this document is taking a long time. Would you like to disable automatic citation updates?
You will need to click Refresh in the Zotero toolbar when you are done inserting citations.
You can change this setting later in the document preferences.
5) After clicking "yes" I have a citation number followed by a shaded number through half of a page, then a line followed by a full citation. When I erase the number above the line, the citations below the line are automatically deleted accordingly.
I updated LibreOffice (7.1.3.2), reinstalled the LibreOffice-Zotero plug-in successfully. I tried every which way to make this work to no avail. Would someone help me understand what I am doing wrong?
4. Try clicking "no" and waiting. You want the citations to update initially, even if it takes some time.
Here is what it looks like on two citations where everything after 35 and 36 is shaded and populated with the respective citation info:
35 Rabuy, & Kopf, 2016; Quigley, 2016
36 Wiesel, 1999
When I click "no" LibreOffice begins to update. Then, the two citations above show:
35 58 shaded; 59 shaded
36 60 shaded
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58 Bernadette Rabuy & Daniel Kopf, Detaining the Poor: How money bail perpetuates an endless cycle of poverty and jail time, Prison Policy Initiative, May 10, 2016, https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/incomejails.html (last visited Apr 25, 2021)
59 Bill Quigley, 40 Reasons Why Our Jails Are Full of Black And Poor People, HuffPost, June 2, 2016, https://www.huffpost.com/entry/40-reasons-why-our-jails-are-full-of-black-and-poor-people_b_7492902 (last visited Apr 25, 2021).
60 Wiesel, supra note 57.
Then, three boxes appeared:
1- Zotero Integration (as in 4) above)
2- Zotero integration error - Zotero experienced an error updating your document. Would you like to troubleshoot?
3- Zotero integration - Zotero experienced an error updating your document. Would you like to troubleshoot?
I tried troubleshooting errors to no avail.
Ok, I redid the steps. Just in case I am doing something different. I am working on LibreOffice. Here are some questions on the steps:
3 - image captions - I checked all citations, and they were all drag/dropped from Zotero into scrivener. I am unsure if this is what you mean.
4 - Since your instructions are for Google Docs, I used "save a copy" in LibreOffice. Does this suffice? Working on the COPY document, I used the ODT scan and I clicked “Set Document Preferences” button. I received the warning: Zotero Integration
Updating citations in this document is taking a long time. Would you like to disable automatic citation updates? I clicked yes.
Scrolling down to the area of the citation, I see the same problem.
5 - Made a copy
6 - Not using OneDrive here
7 - I opened the copy, switched the style, and the citations are still screwed up
8 - No biography, just endnotes
9 - I have a Mac, so when using Fn+Opt and then pressing F9 when it appears on the touch bar, the menu "tools" on LibreOffice appears as if I had the cursor hovering over it, but nothing else happens
10 - Deleted portion of the document and the problem persists
Just in case, here is a new Report ID: 783955876. I also emailed a screenshot of the problem so you can see what I see.
Ok, I went through the document deleting parts and changing the style every time. The problem persisted. When I deleted the whole thing, I could still see all the citations despite no text corresponding to these citations.
Could you try the same thing with a document compiled to RTF in Scrivener, then open that doc in LibreOffice, save as .odt, then run the scan? If you want to, you can do this with a small subsection of the document since this is just for testing.
I tried opening a brand new Scrivener document and copy/paste from the problem document, but it also brought over the issue.
I made a folder into the project where the issue if not happen and copy/paste a section from the problem document as plain text.
I manually drag/dropped citations accordingly. I compiled and test and the issue is gone.
Is there something you can suggest to avoid having to manually add every citation or find out what happens with that document?
sample (citations).odt
file in an earlier email, but it seems to be empty and/or corrupt. We need a document that has LibreOffice ReferenceMarks in it after runningODF (to citations)
export with Zotero on a file saved from Scrivener.I used an existing paper where the issue was not happening. I deleted everything on that document, then copy/paste the text unformatted, and finally went through the whole document manually, inserting each citation. I want to find out why it happened and hopefully spare anyone else the laborious ordeal.
You shouldn't need to manually redo every citation, you just need to keep copying them from the broken document to find the one causing problems and remove/reinsert that one from Scrivener.
Is there anything we can do on this end?
I did just that, and indeed, the citations come through in the expected order.
I went back and created a new doc on Scrivener, copied and pasted it from the problem document, and the issue did not appear. There must be something wrong with the specific document.