Upgrade StorageAbout the style "Séminaire Saint-Sulpice - Ecole Théologie"
Hi, this is a follow-up of two other threads, '"Chapter Number" field for Book Section metadata' and 'original dates of publication'. In these discussions, it is explained that we can add to a reference:
1) a chapter number (for a book section) by writing "chapter-number: 12" in the Extra field,
2) an original date of publication by writing "original-date: 1980" in the Extra field.
I am using the style "Séminaire Saint-Sulpice - Ecole Théologie", and neither works. Presumably, it should look like this:
1) ALBERIGO Giuseppe, « Le concile Vatican II », in Les Conciles œcuméniques, vol. I : L’histoire, chap. 12, Cerf, Paris, 1994, pp. 363 407. (not sure of it)
2) GUILLET Jacques, La foi de Jésus-Christ, Mame-Desclée, Paris, 2010 [1980], (206 p.).
However, I do not know who created this style, and if he would agree with these changes...
1) a chapter number (for a book section) by writing "chapter-number: 12" in the Extra field,
2) an original date of publication by writing "original-date: 1980" in the Extra field.
I am using the style "Séminaire Saint-Sulpice - Ecole Théologie", and neither works. Presumably, it should look like this:
1) ALBERIGO Giuseppe, « Le concile Vatican II », in Les Conciles œcuméniques, vol. I : L’histoire, chap. 12, Cerf, Paris, 1994, pp. 363 407. (not sure of it)
2) GUILLET Jacques, La foi de Jésus-Christ, Mame-Desclée, Paris, 2010 [1980], (206 p.).
However, I do not know who created this style, and if he would agree with these changes...
We go by a style's guidelines or actual publications.
Unfortunately, we don't seem to have access to the guidelines.
If you have some papers that clearly show that the orginal-date and chapter number was added, then we certainly adapt the style. We can do that and there is no need to contact the original creator of the style (which often is not somebody working at a journal/publisher, but just somebody who wants to publish a paper and wants to make their own life easier)
Any further comments re the above?
I do have the PR prepared to submit to the style, but first I want to make sure this makes sense.
I was not able to contact Augustin Chartier, neither to find a homogeneous way to write the data presented in 1) and 2).
1) Regarding the chapter number, it seems that the right thing could be to write "chap. 12" just after the book title, as in my example.
2) As for the original date, I found many ways to write it:
2010² (1980)
2010 (1980)
2010 [1980]
1980 [rééd. 2010]
(1980) 2010
Etc. An interesting solution may be to allow the field "Date" to contain a string, and not just a number, so that one can write as one want depending on the context?
3) Moreover, I found a mistake in the quotation of a website; it is currently written:
« Hérode » [en ligne], Wikipédia, le 8 avril 2020, disponible sur , (consulté le 11 avril 2020].
but the closing bracket should be the same as the opening bracket.
2. Did you find those in actual publications or in general. If the latter that doesn't help much. If the former we'll need to pick the one that seems to be more common across various publications from that publisher.
1) I did not find it in a journal, but it is advised by my university, so it may be a convenient option to have when needed:
PIOLAT, Annie. La recherche documentaire : manuel à l’usage des étudiants, doctorants et jeunes chercheurs. Marseille : Solal, 2002. Chap. 8, Citation et référencement, p. 115-131.
http://www.unistra.fr/fileadmin/upload/unistra/recherche/theses/biblio.pdf
2) I found all these examples in different publications, books and online. It seems that there is no consensus on this topic. The most complete way to write it could be this one:
H.-U. von Balthasar, La foi du Christ, Paris, Aubier, 1968 et J. Guillet, La foi de Jésus-Christ, coll. JJC 12, Paris, Mame, 2010² (1980).
https://www.cairn.info/revue-nouvelle-revue-theologique-2020-1-page-23.html#no3
3) It seems that square brackets are to be used for "consulté le ...":
NADJI F., BOUDIA D. Guide de rédaction des références bibliographiques [en ligne] Villeurbanne : Doc'INSA, 2001. [consulté le 14.03.2002]. Disponible sur : http://docinsa.insa-lyon.fr/docs/refbibli.html
http://www.unistra.fr/fileadmin/upload/unistra/recherche/theses/biblio.pdf