Why do these older Ecology and Society pages not bring up the Zotero add-on menu in Firefox

stanrhodes

For these particular pages, the Firefox add-on no longer has a menu (where to save, tags entry field) pop up when you click to save to Zotero, on both Lubuntu 16.04 and Windows 10:
https://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol9/iss2/art10/
https://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol10/iss1/resp2/
https://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol11/iss2/resp2/

Clicking DOES add entries into Zotero, it just doesn't pop up the menu. Then I have to go in and manually add the tags. I've run into a few of these and they're annoying enough I wanted to ask about it. I'm wondering why these pages do this (newer articles on Ecology and Society don't), and if there's any kind of workaround, or I can change some advanced setting so this type of article brings up the menu when I save it.

A newer article which has no problem:
https://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol24/iss3/art29/

Cheers.

dstillman

We'll look into that — issue created. It's something to do with the frame they're using on the old pages.

As a workaround, in Firefox you can right-click on the page background and choose This Frame → Show Only This Frame, and then save from there.

stanrhodes

Thanks for the quick response dstillman. Interestingly the "Show Only This Frame" workaround seems to work with
https://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol11/iss2/resp2/main.html
but not
https://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol9/iss2/art10/main.html
with the latter being seen as only a webpage by Zotero. Both of those are the pages after the menu operation is performed on the original page.

But regardless, at least I now have some grasp of the issue, and I'll know what to do in the future. I hope this issue turns out to be an easy fix for y'all. And keep up the good work! Zotero is tops, I can't imagine getting through academia without it, and I recommend it to all. Cheers.

dstillman

If you hover over the save icon, you can see the translator being used. In this case it's "Embedded Metadata", which means it's data provided by the site. On the older page, there's simply no data provided. (You can view the page source to see the meta tags in the ones that are working.)