Upgrade StorageFinding the papers that cite each of two different papers
Dear community,
With Google Scholar, one can list all the papers that cite a given paper. However, if one wants to find all the papers that each simultaneously cite a given *set* of papers (even just two or three), doing it this way becomes cumbersome, and involves manually overlapping the Google Scholar lists for each cited paper in the set.
I wonder if there is a creative way of doing this automatically, with Zotero...
With Google Scholar, one can list all the papers that cite a given paper. However, if one wants to find all the papers that each simultaneously cite a given *set* of papers (even just two or three), doing it this way becomes cumbersome, and involves manually overlapping the Google Scholar lists for each cited paper in the set.
I wonder if there is a creative way of doing this automatically, with Zotero...
cites: citationkeyin theextrafield.relationsat some point become directional and labeled, which would make stuff like this possible in a more integrated way. Could also be useful for book/chapter relations for example.- create a new (group) library
- for every paper of interest, pull up the Google Scholar page that lists the papers citing it
- create a separate collection and import these citing papers there (20 at a time, since GS will not display more; the first batch of 20 is, however, enough in most cases)
- repeat for all papers of interest
- this new library's Duplicate Items collection will list all papers that cite each of the papers of interest. Q.E.D.
However, the problem with this method is that GS seems to ban or somehow invalidate the Zotero translator as soon as you've imported the first chunk of 20 papers. Afterwards, any attempts of importing GS results pages results in the infamous message "An error occurred while saving this item", cf https://imgur.com/a/lhG6HsO . In my experience, this kind of ban takes several days/weeks to lift.
SUbsequent visits to GS result in a captcha challenge, but even when this is solved, importing pages of GS results in Zotero does not work. Only selecting and importing one paper at a time from such a page works.
Any idea how to get around this?
I'm not an expert at all when it comes to zotero internals but here's my two cents of ideas
There're two ways that occurred to me on how this might happen.
1) Automatic
from the items in the different collections the graph of connections is created by looking at the metadata on how each paper cites the others. This could probably be retrieved third party services like semantic scholar for instance.
2) Manual
There's the zutilo plugin which allows us to easily relate items by putting a link in the related tab of each item we relate with each other. This could be leveraged to create a connected graph to show some kind of connection between these items.
These ideas could be further enhanced with the usage of mind maps for instance.
> It relies on there being lines of the form cites: citationkey in the extra field.
@emilianoheyns, do you know how these data is supposed to be added to the extra field? Is there an automatic way? Or does one have to do it manually? Thanks!
The plugin would adapt and blend ideas from different open source projects, such as @lupuli's great Local Citation Network, @emilianoheyns' BBT, @zuphilip's zotero-open-citations, among others.
You can read the full proposal here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikicite/grant/WikiCite_addon_for_Zotero_with_citation_graph_support
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikicite/grant/WikiCite_addon_for_Zotero_with_citation_graph_support
I wanted to let you know that today I publised the first very early pre-release. I can't emphasize enough how early a pre-release this is. It is far from being production ready, and there are still many things to implement, and even more to polish.
You can read the details in the pre-release announcement [1], and see some screenshots in the proposal's discussion page [2].
The plugin is built as a bootstrapped extension (instead of a XUL overlay extension) following Dan Stillman's advice [3], and using Will Shanks' Zutilo plugin as an example. I am also trying to avoid using XUL as much as possible, and using standard React/HTML as suggested [4].
[1] https://github.com/diegodlh/zotero-wikicite/releases/tag/v0.0.1
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikicite/grant/WikiCite_addon_for_Zotero_with_citation_graph_support#v0.0.1_very_early_pre-release_published
[3] https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/345799/#Comment_345799
[4] https://groups.google.com/g/zotero-dev/c/xYC0I8JaUAI/m/56ohWjniCgAJ
[1] https://github.com/diegodlh/zotero-wikicite/releases/tag/v0.0.2
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikicite/grant/WikiCite_addon_for_Zotero_with_citation_graph_support#v0.0.2_pre-release_published
[3] https://github.com/diegodlh/zotero-wikicite/issues
[4] https://github.com/diegodlh/zotero-wikicite#installation
I tried this plugin. However, at the 16th second of the video, the pdfs coming to the citiation section are not uploaded.
So, the pdf I chose had 3 citations. and I could not see these 3 references. Not uploaded to Zotero.
Hi @zmetedinler! Thanks for your feedback on the Wikicite plugin for Zotero I'm developing. You're right it is still a preliminary release, and documentation is still missing. But I'm happy to know it is being tested already.
Just to make sure, you mean you are working with a Zotero item that has a PDF attachment, and that this attachment has three references. Does the item have a Wikidata QID? For the moment, reference extraction from PDF attachments is not supported. Only synchronization with Wikidata (for items which already have an entry in Wikidata).
If you wish, we may have a longer discussion in the repository's discussion section: https://github.com/diegodlh/zotero-wikicite/discussions