Style Error: [American Meteorological Society]

poettli

From https://www.ametsoc.org/ams/index.cfm/publications/authors/journal-and-bams-authors/formatting-and-manuscript-components/references/, the citation is now using "https://doi.org/" instead of "doi:"
Collins, W. D., and Coauthors, 2006: The formulation and atmospheric simulation of the Community Atmosphere Model Version 3 (CAM3). J. Climate, 19, 2144–2161, https://doi.org/10.1175/JCLI3760.1.

For books, the bibliography now requires "Last name and initials of author(s), year of publication of book, title of book (italicized), publisher’s name, and total pages." The place is no longer required.
Wallace, J. M., and P. V. Hobbs, 1977: Atmospheric Science: An Introductory Survey. Academic Press, 350 pp.

Same for book chapter:
Anthes, R. A., 1986: The general question of predictability. Mesoscale Meteorology and Forecasting, P. S. Ray, Ed., Amer. Meteor. Soc., 636–656.

damnation

Hi.
Thanks for pointing the change of style out.
I've submitted a PR. https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/pull/4045

poettli

Sorry to revive the thread.

I also noticed the current American Meteorological Society style adds the DOI and the access date to the reference to book and book chapter, which is not required and should be removed.

damnation

Hi @poettli
I cannot confirm this.
The style is programmed so it only adds the DOI for anything else, BUT books, chapters,theses, newspaper articles, websites.....
Can you confirm you actually means URL and not DOI?
If so:
Can you confirm you had the AMS style selected? Can you confirm the item type is indeed a book? Can you confirm this behaviour by trying it in a fresh test document?

poettli

First, I did a mistake, book item is not affected, but book chapter is

Using examples listed on this page, LibreOffice, Journal of Climate style, I get:

Anthes, R. A., 1986: The General Question of Predictability. Mesoscale Meteorology and Forecasting, P.S. Ray, Ed., American Meteorological Society, 636–656 https://doi.org/10.1007/978-1-935704-20-1_27 (Accessed June 25, 2019).

Arakawa, A., 1993: Closure Assumptions in the Cumulus Parameterization Problem. The Representation of Cumulus Convection in Numerical Models, K.A. Emanuel and D.J. Raymond, Eds., Meteorological Monographs, American Meteorological Society, 1–15 https://doi.org/10.1007/978-1-935704-13-3_1 (Accessed June 25, 2019).

The link pages gives (2nd reference should include editor):

Anthes, R. A., 1986: The general question of predictability. Mesoscale Meteorology and Forecasting, P. S. Ray, Ed., Amer. Meteor. Soc., 636–656.

Arakawa, A., 1993: Closure assumption in the cumulus parameterization problem. The Representation of Cumulus Convection in Numerical Models, Meteor. Monogr., No. 46, Amer. Meteor. Soc., 1–16.

damnation

Issue 1:
You have the DOI url in the URL field and NOT in the specific DOI field I assume? (I know this as it's adding the access date which is only does for URLs)

Issue 2:
No idea what you're trying to tell me. Can you rephrase the problem?
From what I see the output for chapters is correct.

poettli

1 Yes, this is what the Zotero Connector provides
2 The chapter shouldn't display neither a DOI/URL nor an access date

damnation

I made some adjustments. Please try: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/raw/8f19611dcb44a5c7e0608026b2c286334ab5c8ed/american-meteorological-society.csl

poettli

It seems to work, yes. Thank you for your help and sorry for the misunderstanding.

bwiernik

@poettli In general, if a DOI is available, it is best to use this to create a URL, rather than another URL, as it is more likely to be stable over time. This is the approach taken in many CSL styles.

adamsmith

@poettli In general, if a DOI is available, it is best to use this to create a URL, rather than another URL, as it is more likely to be stable over time. This is the approach taken in many CSL styles.

What poettli is saying is that Zotero imports the chapter this way from Springer (with both the regular DOI and the DOI in URL form in the URL field). It's not uncommon for publishers to put the URLified DOI as URL into the metadata and our styles should handle that correctly (as AMA now does - thanks @damnation).