Is there a way to get the Zotero pane back under the browser window?
It seems that Zotero no longer functions as a separate pane under the browser window as it used to. I understand that the change was introduced by Zotero to have a standard design. But this has caused a major inconvenience for me because I have many collections and subcollections as well as multiple group libraries in my Zotero library so I need to see which collection I am in to be able to save a particular page. The way I work is, I browse through several documents, web pages, etc, and then when I come across something that I want to save, I open up Zotero, go to the relevant collection and save the page or document there in one click. Now after the pane is gone, I have to minimize Firefox, go to Zotero standalone, select the collection I need, go back to Firefox and then click to save to Zotero. Very frustrating and time consuming. So is there a way to get back the Zotero pane? Is it possible to downgrade my Zotero to a previous version where the pane worked? Or is there a chance that it will come back in the near future?
You can arrange the two app windows on your desktop to have essentially the same layout. On windows you can do this using the Windows key and arrow keys. On Mac, you can drag the widows or use a tool like Moom or BetterTouchTool.
It's also very fast to switch back and forth between the two apps using Alt+Tab (Windows) or Cmd+Tab (Mac).
The Zotero extension for Firefox will very shortly no longer work at all (disabled by Mozilla), so there isn't really a point in trying to downgrade.
Anyway, thanks a lot to all zotero 5.0 contributers, I guess it was an effort to integrate most of the functions firefox extension users were used to.
And yes, what bwiernik says is correct.
Does anyone know if Zotero-extension version will work with Google Chrome?
I've been writing to Firefox about this as well. I don't expect a solution but maybe if there are enough people who complain - esp when they discover that their in-browser Zotero does not work anymore - they will consider another way.
In any case, I love Zotero and I am so thankful that it was created and will continue to use it no matter what.
But if there will be a way to choose the target collection directly from the connector, that would solve the issue. I will be looking forward to this.
It doesn't look like they'll go back to the former technology but maybe if there is enough demand they'll cooperate with Zotero to come up with something new. Right now I am trying to work with two split windows - Firefox and Zotero standalone side by side. But it is not nearly as efficient as the former technology.
Mozilla re-instating XUL/XPCOM would be like asking Microsoft to re-instate Windows 3.11 at this point. To them, the previous tech has served its purpose, and they now move on to tech that caters to a new world (and there are good reasons for the incompatible change in architecture, even if I dislike the effects on me).
Zotero is going to move to a better-supported platform anyhow in the foreseeable future. Zotero never was really unambiguously welcome in Firefox anyway, it's not like Mozilla is going to reverse because Zotero dropped off.
Well, Mozilla may not reverse because Zotero dropped off, but they will lose customers like me. As far as I'm concerned Zotero is much more important to me than Firefox, so had Zotero made arrangements to make the in-browser pane system work in Chrome or Explorer, I would have switched to them without a second thought. I hope Zotero introduces a new system where we can select libraries and sub-collections (or add new ones) directly from the browser page. That is the one function I am terribly upset about for losing.
(Firefox was the only browser that ever had the XUL/XPCOM technologies that Zotero used. The changes Firefox made were really to become more in line with Chrome/Safari/Edge.)
For me, there were only 2 reasons to use Firefox over other browsers. One was philosophical— it was independent of large corporations and supporting the “little guy” made me feel comfortably rebellious. The other, more important, reason was the UI. With Firefox when using a database site such as PubMed, I can use the spacebar to page-down. With Chrome, IE, and Safari clicking the spacebar, instead of doing a page-down, un-ticks the last-made check-box mark. So Firefox allowed me to display more lines of records and quickly scroll through them. With Chrome and Safari I needed to show fewer lines per page and go to a new page to show additional record lines. In my experience, a PubMed page with 100 records will load about as quickly as one with 20. Going to a new page takes at least a couple of seconds. I perform a daily search that results in over 1000 items newly added to PubMed. The search is very sensitive and only 10% of the results to my query are potentially useful. Thus, when I go through the process of accepting or rejecting records by quickly evaluating the article titles; it is much less tedious to have a delay from a new-page every 100 records instead of every 20 records. If I could use the space bar to page-down with Chrome I would immediately switch to Chrome.
Having a second monitor allowed me long ago to switch to the Zotero standalone. I wasn’t tied to Firefox and found that some websites worked better with browsers other than Firefox. I found that I mostly only used Firefox when working with Zotero and database sites.
Please follow the link provided by @emilianoeheyns above to Dan Stillman’s fine essay about the disappointing and cliquish behavior of the Mozilla leadership. I believe that Mr. Stillman demonstrated that he is a caring and great man who strives to do good for the world. (Thank you, Dan, if you are reading this!)
I really miss ff-zotero :(
*Edit* - Several other groups are finding themselves leveraging the developer's tools bar in lieu of the older functionality.
But I'm still curious, especially since Zotero now allows you to specify collections and tags during save, which workflow specifically is this breaking?
I usually use a large desktop monitor and can stack a browser window above a window where Zotero resides. However, I also use a notebook with an 11 inch screen. I position the two windows one-atop-the-other in a way that neither window takes up quite all of the screen. It is easy to switch from one window to the other.
Also, while you can arrange windows like DWL suggests, I want to be very clear that our official advice here is absolutely not that you need a large monitor or need to move windows around to use Zotero effectively. When you do need to switch to Zotero, there are efficient ways to do so (that apply to any program on your system, Zotero included).