Other contributors?
In section 14.105 of the Chicago Manual of Style (17th), it presents how to reference other contributors listed on the title page. I am trying to cite *Familiar Stranger* by Stuart Hall. On the title page, Stuart Hall is listed as the author, and Bill Schwarz is listed as a contributor--"with Bill Schwarz" is in much smaller font beneath Hall's lead.
I'm not sure how to enter this into zotero. When I use "contributor," Schwarz's name is not included in the reference. But it doesn't seem appropriate to reference them as co-authors.
I'm sure this has been posted before, but I was unable to use the search function to retrieve any threads that specifically answered this question. Thanks for any advice!
I'm not sure how to enter this into zotero. When I use "contributor," Schwarz's name is not included in the reference. But it doesn't seem appropriate to reference them as co-authors.
I'm sure this has been posted before, but I was unable to use the search function to retrieve any threads that specifically answered this question. Thanks for any advice!
What is the appropriate way to handle such cases in Zotero? Should they simply be skipped over? Should they be added as co-authors? Is there any alternative?
For now I've just been doing this impressionistically, deciding whether a "with"-contributor is important enough to be added as a co-author or should be skipped, but that's arbitrary and doesn't respect the phrasing of the original work.
In my view, this would be mainly for researchers in the humanities and adjacent social sciences. In the more science-y world, what bwiernik says is indeed the norm.
Secondary question:
If I did want to manually update (for this or another reason) is there any way to "tag" the output to indicate that a particular reference is known to have broken formatting I need to fix manually? This comes up once in a while with weird documents. And it could also patch any other issues with Zotero that haven't yet been fixed.
Another example, completely unrelated to Zotero, is that when citing a reference that has text in Hebrew (e.g., title), that usually gets corrupted in MS Word (on Mac), so I want to go back through and manually check/fix those citations. It's easy enough to visually skim for Hebrew text in the references section, but would be nice to have an option to "tag" it as such to make sure I don't miss it, and for any other similar exceptions.
Having an "exception" feature in Zotero would make everything much more flexible. I don't mind a bit of manual editing at all. I just don't want to forget something.
I suppose I could preface the author's name with "***..." if I really wanted to be awkward about it. That would actually work, but would be inconvenient for other obvious reasons.
(I've done something similar to a paper with dozens of authors by forcing one to be "et al.", which sort of worked.)
Having it before the name would change the sorting order, so I'd see all of the broken citations at the top of my references list, and I'd know I needed to fix those and of course move them down to the appropriate location.
I'm trying to figure out if I can come up with some conditional formatting for this. Working my way through the code, not sure yet. I'll post back if I figure it out.
annote: Needs Hebrew fixed
in the extra field and then add<text variable="annote" font-weight="bold"/>
somewhere to your citation style's bibliography section, which will add your note in bold to that item in the bibliography.Obviously this does require customizing any citation style you're using.
You can pick any other variable here:https://aurimasv.github.io/z2csl/typeMap.xml but annote has the advantage that it isn't used in any citation style.
I made a new variable name: "zoteroflag"
(Is that OK? It seems to work!)
So in the extra field, I'd write:
zoteroflag: year
(whatever text you want)And then in the citation style I added, before the author's name:
<if variable="zoteroflag">
<text variable="zoteroflag" prefix="*[" suffix="]* "/>
</if>
That then comes out in the bibliography as:
*[year]* Jespersen, Otto. 1909. A Modern English Grammar on historical principles. 7 vols. Heidelberg, Copenhagen, etc.: Carl Winter’s Universitätsbuchhandlung, Ejnar Munskgaard, etc.
It will be sorted first, so it will be obvious it needs to be fixed, and the text "year" can be whatever you want. In this case, I want the year to be a range, "1909-1949", which I will update manually.
This is sort of an awkward hack, but it means that Zotero is no longer limited to features that are supported automatically, since in principle I can now do anything manually as needed. In fact, I could even include the actual correction in the note rather than just the type of correction needed.
I think this is going to make me a lot happier, and confident I won't forget to manually fix things, while not being bothered by many of the little quirks of citations that Zotero can't easily be modified to handle at this time.
@bwiernik -- that's a great idea. (Currently I'm mostly trying to prepare a single style for my dissertation which will have ~3,000 references. But I also use other styles for publications I submit-- easier to proofread those carefully if needed, though.)
Any chance this is something that could be added to Zotero for those of us who want help with manual customization? I really don't mind manually fixing things at all (and means Zotero doesn't need to cater to my every need), but I'm concerned about forgetting to make changes, and this saves me. I think this could help others too.
@DWL-SDCA -- that's an option, but it won't automatically re-sort the entries, and you'll need to remember your 'code' and to search for it. Easy to forget that, I think. With my method, it will make it almost impossible to overlook because the first entries in your references will be obviously wrong.
1. Just for anyone reading this, my code above is overly complex. Only one line is needed:
<text variable="annote" prefix="*[" suffix="]* "/>
It's only printed if there is a value. (I didn't know that before.)
2. I thought the sorting was working properly, but it seems to have been coincidental. I thought that the prefix "*[" would ensure that it is sorted first in (almost) any realistic scenario. But apparently that's ignored just as a symbol, and whatever letter is first gets sorted. So if your note is "a" then it's first, or "z" it's last. Using the prefix "*1[" seems to work, whatever note it included, so the number is sorted first.
My question: is there documentation anywhere to indicate exactly how sorting is accomplished, and which character is sorted absolutely first? I'd like to insert that character in this code.
Edit: huh! Apparently just adding a space before the * is enough to sort it first. Does that seem correct to everyone else? That's ASCII 32, the first non-technical character, so I suppose nothing else would ever go before that (except of course multiple spaces).
<text variable="annote" prefix=" $0*[" suffix="]* "/>
The resulting reference (sorted first) is like this:
$0*[
note
]* Author. YYYY. Title...Maybe overkill, but should be reliable, and clearly offsets it as special, since that's the point.
Any suggestions/concerns?