Change database for data import?

I am currently trying to weigh up the pros and cons between Zotero and Citavi, and generally find Zotero very intuitiv and find it neater than Citavi. However, it seems that I can't manually set which databases/catalogues it uses to import its bibliographic data, is that right? I have done some digging, but it seems it defaults to either WorldCat or LC. Now I appreciate that those are very good databases, but I am working in Germany and would generally like to import the data from at last the DNB (for a start, I don't really need LC subject headings importet but would much rather have the German equivalent importet). I am also thinking that if I were able to set the preferred database to my local library and only then search DNB or GBV etc., I could potentially even import the relevant classmarks straight away, which would be great. I know that this works in Citavi, but I just wanted to double check that it is still not a function in Zotero, and if not, I am wondering why?

Cheers
  • edited July 19, 2017
    I am not exactly sure what you mean by “import” here. What stage of the research process are you talking about?

    Zotero can import items from hundreds of websites and databases–it has by far the best automated metadata import of any reference manager. The best way to import data to Zotero is by the browser connectors: https://www.zotero.org/support/getting_stuff_into_your_library

    Do you mean the function to Retrieve Metadata from PDFs? Zotero does use the German ISBN registrar in its sequence for that function. But this is almost never the best way to import data into Zotero (again, it is better to use the browser connector plugin, see above).

    In general, having used both Citavi and Zotero, Zotero is much easier to use for importing items, working with your database, and collaborating with others. Zotero also uses the CSL citation style system, so it has a much wider range of supported styles than does Citavi (it is also much easier to modify CSL/Zotero styles than Citavi styles).
  • I mean the general bibliographical metadata, so if I want to add an item to my bibliogrphay. If I put an ISBN into Zotero or if I use the browser plugin, Zotero goes off to search for the correspoding metadata in Worldcat and/or LC (as in title, author, editor, etc.).

    What I would like for Zotero to do for me is to grab that kind of data from DNB or my local library instead. This seems to work if I use the plugin in the GVK with an item that has NOT been catalogued by LC and/or doesn't appear in Worldcat yet, but as soon as it is already in those catalogues, Zotero imports the metadata from those.

    On a certain level, I understand why those have been chosen. However, I would very much like to be able to change this if for whatever reason I find that giving another database priority works better for me. From a user perspective, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do this, if this makes sense.
  • I think you're still misunderstanding this somewhat -- what you're describing _is_ the behavior when using "add by identifier" with an ISBN (except that Zotero does prefer GVK over Worldcat). We could consider making that customizable, but honestly I don't think that'd be high priority as of now.

    But if you're actually on the GVK or DNB page and click the Save to Zotero icon in your browser, Zotero will import the data from that respective library/site.

    I believe the only exception to this is amazon, for which we supplement book metadata via worldcat.
  • Thank you for clarifying this, while digging through older posts about this issue I found one that said that Worldcat and LC would be preferred, but I think that was only when the data was not considered "complete" due to differing standards (before RDA was established).

    Anyway, I should have probably mentioned this earlier, but I am not usually searching via DNB or GVK straight away. Since I mostly actually want to know if I can find things in my local library, I am using the catalogues of e.g. Marburg University, Giessen University etc. or the hessian version of GVK HeBIS. However, those catalogues aren't working as well with the Zotero plugin as GVK does. When I find a book though those, the Zotero plugin doesn't recognise it as such but can only import the website of the catalogue, rather than the bibliographic data from, say, a monography. So I manually have to copy and paste the ISBN at this stage into Zotero, and then Zotero gets the data mostly from LC. I am not saying that this data is incorrect or anything, it isn't, but in an ideal world, I could tell Zotero to first search my local library database for that data instead, so that it would import the classmark from my local library instead of the LC classification.

    I am a Humanities person, so I still have to go to the actual library A LOT ;). That might help to explain why I am so bothered by local classmarks... ;)

    I hope this makes somewhat more sense?
  • It looks like there is no direct translator that could capture the records from your libraries of choice (at least that's what I'm seeing on https://hds.hebis.de/ubmr/index.php ). But you can use the standard export feature from these catalogs and save the record to Bibtex or some Endnote-compatible format, which Zotero will be happy to ingest.
  • I think getting HeBIS to work with Zotero is going to be a lot more straightforward than letting users customize which ISBN database is preferred and it seems like it'd address your use case. @zuphilip -- have you ever seen that system? Happen to know anything about it? Colleagues you know we could ask?
  • This looks like VuFind. I will try to look closer, but can't promise when exactly...
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