Arabic and right to left languges

gotoayman
unfortunately There is no citation styles that conform with Arabic. for example, many Arabic institutions prefer to start the bibliography with the name of the book not the author.
Another issue is when inserting the citation in the word document the bracts (XXX,2001) opens to the opposite side like this )XXX,2001( unless i change the text direction from right to left to left to right.
I hope you will take into your account the Arabic user of this great software.

Thank you
  • bwiernik
    Is there a specific journal or style guide that you are looking for support for?

    Could you clarify what you mean by “unless i change the text direction from right to left to left to right”? Change the direction of which text, the inserted reference or the entire document?
  • gotoayman
    Thank you for your prompt reply.
    For styles, i would like to find a support the major universities styles for Arabic and Islamic studies research. e.g. Al Azhar University, or University of Jordan.

    regarding the format issue, i mean the direction of the paragraph that contain the citation. In right to left languages enabled software like Ms Word, users have the option to define the paragraph direction whether it Rtl or Ltr.

    Another issue in the bibliography, the no of edition become before the word edition for example (2 edition) instead of (edition2)
  • bwiernik
    Okay, I see what you mean.

    To request a specific style, please follow the directions here, and one of the volunteers who contributes CSL styles should be able to put one together:
    https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/wiki/Requesting-Styles

    Importantly, we need you to format the exact two requested references, not just any two random references. Links to the style guides for those universities will also be helpful.

    For the flipping of the punctuation, Zotero's citation processor should just handle that correctly if you have your Word document set to RtL. What style are you currently using? If a generic style, such as APA or Chicago, set the language in the Document Preferences pane in the Zotero Word tab/toolbar to Arabic. Does that fix the issue?

    The word ordering for edition label and number are controlled by the citation style.
  • gotoayman
    This is great. first i will try to edit a style my self.
  • gotoayman
    edited July 12, 2017
    Although, i managed to make some desired changes to the Chicago note style to make it very near to the style i wish, i couldn't figure out how to reorder the elements in a specific group like the edition term and its number. it always get out in the undesired flipped order (the number of the edition comes before the term edition). is there any walk-around? by the way, I tried in the Csl editor to put edition (term) before #edition, but it seems to have no effect on the wrong order.
  • bwiernik
    edited July 12, 2017
    Can you post your style to a secret gist here:
    http://gist.github.com

    and paste a link in this thread?
  • gotoayman
    this is the link
    https://gist.github.com/anonymous/51dc0a12eb3913a13264eef5f3b64166

    thanks in advance
  • bwiernik
    Could you also post a link to Dropbox or similar with a word document that has a some Zotero references and bibliography in a right to left format? I don’t use those features, so it would be much faster to work with a document from you.
  • gotoayman
    I managed to solve the problem now. and her is the new link
    https://gist.github.com/anonymous/516db8f23d2a8bb875bb2f368d69951b

    but i still couldn't remove a period mark "." after the edition short form it seems to be part of the short form itself, because i tried to modify the group delimiter but in vain.
  • bwiernik
    Add strip-periods=“true” to the edition line.
  • gotoayman
    her is a link to a file having Arabic text with Zotero referencing
    https://www.mediafire.com/?q2dlpz4d28flgqd
  • gotoayman
    edited July 15, 2017
    Adding "strip-periods=“true”" solved the problem. thank you very much.

    Is there anyway to add an Arabic Hijri Calendar field in addition to the existing Gregorian calendar?
  • LiborA
    I think NO, there is only item date and no flag about type of calendar in Zotero. Maybe in some future version will be available custom date types.
  • bwiernik
    No, sorry. What exactly are you hoping to see for a citation with the other calendar system?
  • gotoayman
    I just want the date to look like this 2017/1438. the first one is the Gregorian calendar and the other is the Hijri Arabic equal year date.

    Another important inquiry
    how can i make the citation and the bibliography start with the title of the book or article.
  • damnation
    For the citation you could switch contributors-short with title-short in lines 1234 and 1237 for example.
  • bwiernik
    A workaround for the two dates would be to enter the Hirji date in Extra like this:

    original-date: 1438

    Then in your style, add the ‘original-date’ variable to your ‘issued’ macro.
  • gotoayman
    thanks damnation, its OK now.
    thanks bwiernik. the workaround is quite enough.
  • merveögretmen
    Hicri ve miladi takvimi aynı anda yazmak için ilave kısmına issued: "1410/1979" yazmak gerekiyor. Ben bunu yazdığımda bazı eserler dipnotta bu tarihi veriyor. Bazı eserlerde ne yazık ki dipnotta tarihi göstermiyor. Bu sorunu çözmek için ne yapmam gerekiyor? Bilgisi olan var mı ?
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