Translator not working properly - Nature Publishing Group

Philipp Rommel
Hi,
I would like to report an issue with the "Nature Publishing Group" translator on Nature Communications. In detail, saved abstracts are truncated and pdfs are not imported.

Example:
http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14748
...

Thanks.

Best,
Philipp
  • DWL-SDCA
    Using a recent 5.0 beta standalone (I also tested the bookmarklet) I can get the complete abstract and other metadata for your example and other articles. I do not automatically get the pdf -- whether I reach this open access journal directly or from within my university system.

    Some "abstracts" are indeed truncated but that is because some of the articles and editorials don't really have an abstract and, in lieu of one, instead we are receiving the first 1000 (approx.) characters of the item. That is also exactly what is available on the A&I FTP site.
  • adamsmith
    @Philipp%20Rommel -- what's your exact setup? Browser, Zotero version, etc.) and is that the URL exactly as you see it?
  • Philipp Rommel
    Thanks for getting back to me so quickly!

    @DWL-SDCA
    My example was not the best one, please try these:
    http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms12684
    http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14859

    Both articles clearly have an abstract on the webpage and also in the pdf. However, for me Zotero does not save these abstracts correctly. At first glance, they appeared to be truncated but now I realize that they are in fact different texts. To me they look like captions or teasers.

    @adamsmith
    My setup:
    - Zotero FF 4.0.29.16
    - Zotera Standalone 4.0.29.17
    - Firefox 52.0.1

    I don't think this is a setup issue because getting the same articles from other pages (e.g. PMC) works fine:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5013612/

    Thanks again.
  • DWL-SDCA
    When I tested yesterday I didn't limit the viewed items to the one PR provided. However, today with more testing I can confirm the problem.

    For _some_ articles, the abstract text that is contained in the html header differs from that of the actual abstract. I don't have time to thoroughly test this with multiple articles but at first look it appears that not only does Nature send a different page depending upon if the visit is direct vs through a proxy, it may also send differently depending upon how recently one has used the website. I'll have to look at this further but that is all I can add today.

  • DWL-SDCA
    The RIS sometimes contains the (full) abstract but usually does not contain any abstract text.
  • adamsmith
    Yes, Nature puts a different abstract -- seemingly more oriented towards a general audience? -- into the "description" field in the sites metadata. That's what Zotero picks up. We can probably fix that.
    Not sure about the PDF, but I can replicate the issue.
  • DWL-SDCA
    edited March 22, 2017
    The simple-language summary of the full abstract seems to be what is pushed with their RSS.

    edit: an abstract of the abstract
  • DWL-SDCA
    There is certainly a business case for general audience summaries -- especially in a publisher's RSS. A short simple summary should stimulate more clicks. That seems to run counter to efforts to improve journal impact. Things that have been demonstrated to attract citations include the quality of an abstract (enabling a searcher to gauge relevence of a publication) and the ease of getting complete, accurate metadata to minimize effort of entering the citation into a manuscript.
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