Doe &/and Smith: Can I put something else but the "and" or "&"?

damnation

Hi,

my university journal changed regulations and now I need to change he and="text" to ideally something saying u. (for german und). Would that somehow be possible?

Thank you! :)

bwiernik

What style are you using? And do you want all the formatting words (editor, etc.) in German or just and?

damnation

Thanks for your reply.
I am talking about this one, that I wrote many years ago: https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=id:veterinary-medicine-austria
Doing the german localisation for the whole style might be a project I take on in the next months. I'd really need to read up on the the whole CSL story though.

P.S.: A friend actually once fixed 2-3 issues including adding a little bit of localisation and I just made a pull request for the changes on GitHub (I'm a newb with this).

bwiernik

CSL has a full locale file for German. You just need to set the default locale for the style to German.

See here:
http://docs.citationstyles.org/en/stable/specification.html#locale

adamsmith

but German would use "und" for "and" so you'd have to specify "u." instead as outlined in the specifications.

damnation

Great. Thanks. I'll read up on that.

But that still leaves me with an "und" and not a shorter "u." as specified by the journal, right? Is there a way to do that?
Also, some people use that style to write in English and some in German. Can you make two styles for the two different languages?

adamsmith

if a style is used in multiple language, we generally remove the default locale and you can then set the language in the Zotero (or Mendeley) Word add-on.

damnation

Thanks, Adam.
Could you also comment on how to specify the "u."? I looked and just can't find where in the specifications that would be.

adamsmith

Something like
<locale xml:lang="de">
<terms>
<term name="and" form="text">u.</term>
</terms>
</locale>

damnation

Thank you Adam.
Been playing around with this, but it doesn't seem to work. The language changes fine in Mendely/Word, but the locale override with the does not work.
Is there something wrong?


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<style xmlns="http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl" class="in-text" version="1.0">
<info>
<title>Veterinary Medicine Austriaramonto</title>
<id>http://www.zotero.org/styles/veterinary-medicine-austria2ramonto</id>
<link href="http://www.zotero.org/styles/veterinary-medicine-austria-ramon" rel="self" />
<author>
<name>blablal</name>
<email>blabal@bla.com</email>
</author>
<category citation-format="author-date" />
<category field="medicine" />
<updated>2012-06-01T21:20:42+00:00</updated>
<summary>Style for the Veterinary Medicine Austria Journal</summary>
<link href="http://www.wtm.at/redaktion_hinweise.php" rel="documentation" />
<link href="http://www.zotero.org/styles/veterinary-medicine-austria" rel="template" />
<rights>This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/</rights>
</info>
<locale xml:lang="de">
<terms>
<term name="and" form="text">u.</term>
</terms>
</locale>
<locale xml:lang="en">
<terms>
<term name="pages" form="short">
<single>p</single>
<multiple>pp</multiple>
</term>
</terms>
</locale>
<macro name="editor">
....


adamsmith

apologies, should have tested before posting
<term name="and">u.</term> i.e. without the form="text"

damnation

You're the best!! Thank you :)