How to add Ibid. to a style

adamsmith

eingefuegt oder geaendert? Mit default-locale="de-DE" ist das definitiv ebd.

sixtyfive

In the hopes that it's okay to reactivate this thread: I've had to create a new style from scratch and it does all I need it to do, except for the ibid thing. I tried following the instructions given above for styles not containing a point-locators-subsequent macro. Unfortunately, no ibid entries are produced, neither with or without a locator present. My code is at https://gist.github.com/sixtyfive/f066a6eaed5285614403e118b63f2cf0. Since Zotero also complains "... is not a valid CSL 1.0.1 style file, and may not work properly with Zotero" I can only assume that something is wrong or incomplete?

adamsmith

The style doesn't validate because of the + signs in the macro names
http://validator.citationstyles.org/?url=https://gist.githubusercontent.com/sixtyfive/f066a6eaed5285614403e118b63f2cf0/raw/41d8da10e2062c92166f4491c93ccf03d3f3ffb2/peter-lang.csl&version=1.0.1
if you simply replace them with hyphens that works.

The ibid. works for me then.

damnation

@rapha
Since this style is for an actual publisher, it would be great to get this into the repository so other users can also benefit from this code.
It will need one or two pieces of information though.
On the Peter Lang website I see the recommendation to either follow APA(US) or MHRA (GB).
What is your style for (which faculty) and what style is it based on?

LiborA

@damnation in the Peter Lang author submission guidelines you can see:

U.S. Style:
For texts in the education discipline, Peter Lang refers to the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association. For non-education texts, Peter Lang refers to the Chicago Manual of Style.
British style:
When using British style, especially within the humanities, it is usually appropriate to follow Hart’s Rules or MHRA style.

I think it will be good/necessary to prepare all these styles.

damnation

Thanks. I know and that's what I wrote. Hence my questions to clarify my questions from rapha's side.
Would be great if you could help me with these two styles.

oliver.duerr.genesis

Hallo, ich verwende Chicago Manual Style (note!) und das Ebd. ging bis vor kurzem immer von selbst...

Tolkien, Lord of the Rings, 1
Ebd., 2
Ebd., 45
usw.

jetzt sieht es plötzlich so aus..

Tolkien, Lord of the Rings, 1
Tolkien, 2
Tolkien 17
usw.

Kann ich da was machen?

adamsmith

Chicago Manual hat seine Stile in der 17. Aufl. geaendert. Der Standard ist jetzt die "Author, Seite" Kurzform. Eine Version mit ebd./ibid. gibt es weiterhin, fuer den note Stil hier: https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=id:chicago-note-bibliography-with-ibid

oliver.duerr.genesis

Vielen Vielen Dank! Das hat mir gerade einige Kopfschmerzen genommen!

vika.velickaite

Thanks for adamsmith! I managed to use the style he suggested

smirnov_dd

@adamsmith Hello! Can you please guide me where to add code? For now my style works perfect for me, just want to ask if I can add ibid function
<choose>
<if position="ibid-with-locator">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text term="ibid"/>
<text macro="point-locators-subsequent"/>
</group>
</if>
<else-if position="ibid">
<text term="ibid"/>
</else-if>


https://gist.github.com/smirnov-dd/4e2196ec16c50321b327f129ca7218b1

adamsmith

Sure -- you'd start in line 390 with the above and then wrap the current 390-399 in <else> and </else> and end with </choose>

smirnov_dd

I guess in my configuration lines 382 - 401 are inactive

tried to add in line 447 - nothing changed

https://gist.github.com/smirnov-dd/7daa2cad38b06f10af71b5bf5dd74856

adamsmith

Could you either remove all the commented out code or rename the file to style.xml so github shows syntax highlighting? No way I can read the code with half the lines commented out.

smirnov_dd

updated to .xml

adamsmith

The style doesn't validate:
https://validator.citationstyles.org/?url=https://gist.githubusercontent.com/smirnov-dd/7daa2cad38b06f10af71b5bf5dd74856/raw/6167db6abd3d76dc66568a3ee6634c069762d981/gistfile1.xml&amp;version=1.0.1

Looks like you're working with some features of CSL-M, I'm afraid I won't be able to help with that.

smirnov_dd

Ok, got it, thank you for your effort!

maier.de

@smirnov_dd
First, if you use CSL-M, you should set the version to "1.1mlz1". This will start the processor in CSL-M mode. Otherwise, not all features might be available.

Then, your "ibid." code is in a layout node for locale "en". So, the item locale must be "en".

Strangely, I only get the ibids, when the document locale is "de" or "en-UK". No "ibid" for "en-US".

smirnov_dd

@maier.de what should have a "1.1mlz1" version?

maier.de

The <style> element.
It should look like this:

<style xmlns="http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl" class="note" version="1.1mlz1">

Of course, you can adjust the other attributes...